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Title: Shoulder Rivets Post by: ken5083 on February 03, 2012, 11:06:42 pm I've searched high and low for some replacement shoulder rivets. These are the rivets that are used on different linkages and such inside the machines. I am completely disassembling a Stoner Jr Candy Machine so that I can send out the parts for plating. I need to find the rivets so that I can re-assemble everything once I get the plated parts back. Does anyone know where I can get these rivets? I have checked Grainger and McMaster Carr with no luck.
Title: Re: Shoulder Rivets Post by: mznb1u on February 03, 2012, 11:21:06 pm Just found this place:
http://www.hansonrivet.com/w11.htm They might have what you need. And welcome aboard! Tim Title: Re: Shoulder Rivets Post by: Jim on February 03, 2012, 11:22:58 pm Check with Steve at Soda Jerk Works
Title: Re: Shoulder Rivets Post by: Creighton on February 03, 2012, 11:27:23 pm Looks like you are on the way to success. Welcome to the board!
Creighton Title: Re: Shoulder Rivets Post by: bcharlton on February 04, 2012, 01:43:19 pm Where are these used? I have restored 5 Stoners and don't recognize them.
BC Title: Re: Shoulder Rivets Post by: johnieG on February 04, 2012, 02:07:36 pm Typically they are used at the pivot-points on linkage arms, etc.
Title: Re: Shoulder Rivets Post by: ken5083 on February 04, 2012, 05:13:49 pm I am doing a fairly complete tear down of my Stoner.
A couple of the places I need these shoulder rivets are for the change-maker where the linkages connect to the main assembly plate as well as where the linkages connect to each other in a few spots. They are also used on the linkage that locks and unlocks the cabinet. There's a main rod that the cam lock moves up and down that is connected to two other brackets that are attached to the cabinet and move up and down. I can't believe that I am the only one who was gone to the extent of tearing down a Stoner to this extent. I ended up getting all the replacement springs through Grainger and McMaster Carr which was easy. I never would have thought it would be so difficult to locate these fasteners. Title: Re: Shoulder Rivets Post by: ken5083 on February 04, 2012, 06:50:20 pm Just found this place: http://www.hansonrivet.com/w11.htm They might have what you need. And welcome aboard! Tim Thanks Tim, I sent Hanson a completed online inquiry form for some "custom" rivets. I am sure they'll probably want me to buy about 5,000 of them but maybe I'm wrong. None of the stock sizes were even close to the few rivets that I need. Title: Re: Shoulder Rivets Post by: johnieG on February 04, 2012, 06:58:54 pm perhaps a lesson learned, don't disassemble something down to the "Nth" degree without first researching the availability of replacement parts.. :tounge:
Title: Re: Shoulder Rivets Post by: ken5083 on February 04, 2012, 07:05:59 pm perhaps a lesson learned, don't disassemble something down to the "Nth" degree without first researching the availability of replacement parts.. :tounge: Therein lies my problem. I can't finish disassembling until I know I can get the rivets. It is also fairly difficult to measure the rivets accurately while they are still installed. I don't doubt that the parts are available, it's just a matter of finding them which has proved to be a challenge but that's part of the fun. Is it possible to plate moving parts without disassembling them? Title: Re: Shoulder Rivets Post by: johnieG on February 04, 2012, 07:15:34 pm not normally, no, although I've seen it done, but you run the risk of Plating the pivot point together, although in theory, if it's a small joint, it should break free, or in the worse case the plating will bridge the two assemblies & fuse them. I've seen it done as I mentioned, but this was on a part that had two dissimilar metals , steel for the fixed arm & steel for the movable link, but the rivet was stainless steel & wasn't affected ( plated) by the clear zinc, best to talk to your plater.
Title: Re: Shoulder Rivets Post by: Jim on February 04, 2012, 07:33:05 pm Is it possible to plate moving parts without disassembling them? Absolutely! Although I have only restored 2 Stoners, certain parts I did not disassemble just for this reason. As far as the locking bar is concerned, mine came out just fine after re-zincing!I would not drill out the rivets holding the coin mech plates together! I do removed everything else on the coin mech though... Photos below show some disassembled parts; there are some V-81 parts as well... And the slug rejector in the coin mech photo is not re-zinc plated... Title: Re: Shoulder Rivets Post by: collecture on February 04, 2012, 07:43:40 pm Thanks Tim, I sent Hanson a completed online inquiry form for some "custom" rivets. I am sure they'll probably want me to buy about 5,000 of them but maybe I'm wrong. None of the stock sizes were even close to the few rivets that I need. I buy from Hanson and also have inquired about specialty rivets - 10,000 is the minimum I think? Title: Re: Shoulder Rivets Post by: ken5083 on February 04, 2012, 08:42:46 pm Absolutely! Although I have only restored 2 Stoners, certain parts I did not disassemble just for this reason. As far as the locking bar is concerned, mine came out just fine after re-zincing! I would not drill out the rivets holding the coin mech plates together! I do removed everything else on the coin mech though... Photos below show some disassembled parts; there are some V-81 parts as well... And the slug rejector in the coin mech photo is not re-zinc plated... Jim- Thanks alot. My plater gets back in town on Tuesday so I am hoping to get some stuff over to him later in the week. I am glad to hear that I don't have to stress about taking ever single moving part apart. Do you ever have a problem with parts sticking together at the pivot point like some others have described? I am basically working on the coin chute/coin return assembly right now. I haven't decided if I want to pull apart the coin mechanism yet but will just leave the slug rejector alone if I do. Title: Re: Shoulder Rivets Post by: collecture on February 04, 2012, 10:10:20 pm The slug rejectors clean-up and replate nicely....why don't you guys touch them? I figure if you can handle the mech, then you can handle the rejector!
Title: Re: Shoulder Rivets Post by: ken5083 on February 04, 2012, 10:26:06 pm The slug rejectors clean-up and replate nicely....why don't you guys touch them? I figure if you can handle the mech, then you can handle the rejector! Now that I've seen yours I'm jealous and may undertake the task. I'm clear cadmium plating alot of the parts and will probably yellow cadmium plate the rejector. Any tips/tricks other than taking a bunch of photos as I disassemble? Where did you get the replacement decals? http://www.reliableplating.com/cadmium.html Title: Re: Shoulder Rivets Post by: ken5083 on February 05, 2012, 12:06:27 am I found the Slug Rejector decals... :) I just ordered them.
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