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Title: Estimate for sandblasting a machine (CSS-96) and painting?
Post by: brasskey on January 16, 2012, 08:06:07 pm
I know price can vary depending on what's being done, but I wanted to get some ideas on what I would be looking to spend on some services since I'm new at restoring a machine from the ground up. I don't know what to expect so I thought I'd ask.

I completely disassembled my CSS-96 and I was going to start looking into places to get estimates on sandblasting.  What is a price range I should be expecting? Obviously the big pieces are the shell and the door.  Along with the coin mech door there are maybe 10 other pieces.

Next, what about a paint job?  I know there will be a little body work that will need to be done so that will increase the price.  Disregarding major body work, what should I expect on that?  Thanks.



Title: Re: Estimate for sandblasting a machine (CSS-96) and painting?
Post by: mznb1u on January 16, 2012, 11:32:24 pm
You will want to inquire about soda blasting unless there is a lot of rust on the machine.  Blasting with more abrasive media can cause the metal of the cabinet to heat up and warp.  Not sure what would be a good price though!

 :drinking: Tim :drinking:


Title: Re: Estimate for sandblasting a machine (CSS-96) and painting?
Post by: msanborn on January 17, 2012, 03:28:25 am
it takes the guy I use approximately 2 hours to blast a 81 style machine.  Thats using soda.  He charges me 200 for the job, but his normal rates are 150 per hour. 


Title: Re: Estimate for sandblasting a machine (CSS-96) and painting?
Post by: SIGNGUY on January 17, 2012, 10:21:21 am
I get all my blasting, body work and paint work done at one place... and it can vary obviosly from machine to macine and the amount of body work needed.. and trust me there is always body work needed, often hiddin until you get that first coat of primer on it..
I pay anywhere from 1200-1800 for all of it..


Title: Re: Estimate for sandblasting a machine (CSS-96) and painting?
Post by: Pat Pixley on January 17, 2012, 11:05:47 am
 I work withthe guys that do my Powder coating they also do media blasting then when they get the cabinet and all the other parts that need paint ready to go then that stuff goes off to my
painter body shop  but in the summer I will be doing my own media blasting.  Just found a blast cabinet (bigger)  I will be buying here soon and  also found a new blaster  ( bigger) so I will be able to do my own machines.

 John is right it does vary from machine to machine ,


Title: Re: Estimate for sandblasting a machine (CSS-96) and painting?
Post by: Slapshot42 on January 17, 2012, 12:35:43 pm
I also used a local powder coat  company.  It's a
$1.38 per minute.  They use a 70 grit, glass bead.  I paid $243.00 for sandblasting, primer, and powdercoating for a Westy WD-10.

As for paint it was about $50.00 a quart used atbout 1.5 quarts, plus ,sealer and primer.


Title: Re: Estimate for sandblasting a machine (CSS-96) and painting?
Post by: brasskey on January 17, 2012, 02:36:34 pm
Thanks for all the help everyone.  There's no soda blasting in my area so it looks like sandblasting is my only option.  I'll see what I can find out.


Title: Re: Estimate for sandblasting a machine (CSS-96) and painting?
Post by: BrianS on January 17, 2012, 07:06:15 pm
I would echo Tim's comments about being careful with sandblasting.  You don't want to warp the metal.  Would be worth double checking to see if a less abrasive media is available.


Title: Re: Estimate for sandblasting a machine (CSS-96) and painting?
Post by: Jim on January 17, 2012, 07:15:53 pm
I also used a local powder coat  company. I paid $243.00 for sandblasting, primer, and powdercoating for a Westy WD-10.
That's a great price for sandblasting & powder-coating a WD-10! My only concern with powder-coating a machine is that it has to be perfect or the dents will show since you cannot have body work under powder-coating as I understand it...


Title: Re: Estimate for sandblasting a machine (CSS-96) and painting?
Post by: Slapshot42 on January 17, 2012, 07:49:42 pm
That's a great price for sandblasting & powder-coating a WD-10! My only concern with powder-coating a machine is that it has to be perfect or the dents will show since you cannot have body work under powder-coating as I understand it...

I had minor body work after the powdercoating.  So I had a few spots that broken into the powdercoating and primer.  I used a 2 part product for bodywork.

  They also sandblasted the air duct cover and all 4 product shelves included in the $243.00. along with powdercoat and primer.

  A normal 2 part product like I used would of melted during another session of powdercoating for red. My powdercoater said there is a a product that is available that can resist the heat of the oven for bodywork.  I will call and ask him.  I think it was called MetalX??

I did use a about 1.5 quarts of primer, blocked it, wet sanded it, than used a very nice paint sealer.  The prep work on that box plus body work is pushin close to 20 hours.

 The only regret was using a single stage paint.  ( This is before I knew about the site.)  The paint is not very hard, and when the box was cut and buffed it broke though the paint.  So had to scratch it and paint it again.


Title: Re: Estimate for sandblasting a machine (CSS-96) and painting?
Post by: Grey Wolf on January 17, 2012, 10:36:07 pm
I paid $300 for blasting an Ideal 85 slider box and base.  It was $90 an hour for sand blasting, and $120 for media.  They did the whole thing with media, then touched up where needed with the sand.


Title: Re: Estimate for sandblasting a machine (CSS-96) and painting?
Post by: SIGNGUY on January 18, 2012, 12:06:35 pm
I have heard of some body fillers and such that are designed to work with powder coating.. havent' tried it yet but may look into it as powder coating is way cheaper than paint and super durable..


Title: Re: Estimate for sandblasting a machine (CSS-96) and painting?
Post by: Slider-Bob on January 18, 2012, 01:14:27 pm
I paid $80 to get an entire S&S 700A cooler sandblasted (top, liner, legs, base...10 pieces total). 

He also blasted a 55 slider rack, a flapper, Glasco slider shelf, a few bottle openers, and 3 cap catchers (1 Ideal, 2 Glasco) for free. 

I'm pretty pleased with that price for all those pieces.  Probably won't get that good of a deal next time...


Title: Re: Estimate for sandblasting a machine (CSS-96) and painting?
Post by: Wojcik on January 18, 2012, 05:20:33 pm
I paid $80 to get an entire S&S 700A cooler sandblasted (top, liner, legs, base...10 pieces total). 

He also blasted a 55 slider rack, a flapper, Glasco slider shelf, a few bottle openers, and 3 cap catchers (1 Ideal, 2 Glasco) for free. 

I'm pretty pleased with that price for all those pieces.  Probably won't get that good of a deal next time...
What sandblasting company are you using?


Title: Re: Estimate for sandblasting a machine (CSS-96) and painting?
Post by: Slider-Bob on January 18, 2012, 07:25:14 pm
Wojcik...

I'll send you a PM.  He works for cash.  I'm sure he doesn't want his name advertised for obvious reasons.


Title: Re: Estimate for sandblasting a machine (CSS-96) and painting?
Post by: brasskey on January 20, 2012, 03:32:13 pm
I found a sandblasting business that also soda blasts. I got an estimate today for $100-150. He gave me that range because he said he didn't really know until he had it in his hands (I sent pictures), but it wouldn't be more than $150. Sound reasonable?


Title: Re: Estimate for sandblasting a machine (CSS-96) and painting?
Post by: Slapshot42 on February 06, 2012, 12:27:23 am
I have heard of some body fillers and such that are designed to work with powder coating.. havent' tried it yet but may look into it as powder coating is way cheaper than paint and super durable..

I talked to my powder coat guy last week they are trying some type of aircraft grade material compound.  Not sure what the chemical make up is yet.  They are also trying to make adjustments to their oven in combination of the products that they are experimenting with.  Typically they are running between temperatures between 325-365 degrees.  He had some available for trial, I may go down and pick something up.

Now something to experiment with....