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Title: Storage Wars
Post by: Ken R on January 03, 2012, 10:30:16 pm
Anyone see the new Storage Wars episode tonight?  They had a bunch of Coke bottles on there with some guy telling them they were worth all sorts of money.  Thought was pretty interesting as compared to what you guys have said about bottles and all.  Just curious if anyone saw it.


Title: Re: Storage Wars
Post by: halehouse on January 03, 2012, 10:36:43 pm
I just saw it too. He was way too high. He said $75 on those gallon syrup bottles didn't he ($10 might be more like it)? $10 each on the commemorative bottles ($1 each maybe).  $75 for the yellow coke crate (I couldn't give mine away on CL) and $25 each for the 70s red crates. There was a Vendolator Pepsi machine in the unit they didn't even mention.


Title: Re: Storage Wars
Post by: halehouse on January 03, 2012, 10:42:39 pm
There was a reproduction tray that the guy said was from the 1900s and valued it at $100.


Title: Re: Storage Wars
Post by: Pinballnut on January 03, 2012, 11:21:12 pm
I just saw it too. He was way too high. He said $75 on those gallon syrup bottles didn't he ($10 might be more like it)? $10 each on the commemorative bottles ($1 each maybe).  $75 for the yellow coke crate (I couldn't give mine away on CL) and $25 each for the 70s red crates. There was a Vendolator Pepsi machine in the unit they didn't even mention.

Like everything else that the so called "reality TV" embellishes and portrays as real world....  On the bright side, your yellow coke crates now worth $75 and the dollar bottles are now worth $10...  At least that's the prices you'll now see flooded on CL....

After Pawn stars started payed/embellished  the price of a non working odds n evens pinball machine, paying more than it will fetch straight out of the box, Every person around here thought they had gold ( not to refer to the goldmine show). I called on a few machines, that the ad posters said were in great shape, that were mere kindling and they were asking ridiculous prices. The reply from 9 out of 10 " I want $900 cause I know it's worth 2k fixed up "......... :darn:

FWIW - I believe the buyer stated the Vendo is worth 2-3k, therefore, they added that price to his total = no need to ask the expert.

  Rant over.....


Title: Re: Storage Wars
Post by: Kilroy on January 04, 2012, 07:20:18 am
i don't watch those reality shows, since my reality is nowherenear  theirs.

But where would be the viewing audience if  the storage unitswere filled with old baby clothes, broken toys and grandma's console TV,as  they are filled in my reality.


Title: Re: Storage Wars
Post by: halehouse on January 04, 2012, 07:36:05 am

FWIW - I believe the buyer stated the Vendo is worth 2-3k, therefore, they added that price to his total = no need to ask the expert.

  Rant over.....

I missed that. Wow.


Title: Re: Storage Wars
Post by: briandr1 on January 04, 2012, 08:31:50 am
it seems they over value everything on those shows, i saw the pepsi machine but they didnt even look at it or mention it. I heard him say the newer coke machine would bring 800 to 1000. And like anyone could believe that yuupin dave hester got 14 grand for all those books bs if you ask me.


Title: Re: Storage Wars
Post by: Eric on January 04, 2012, 09:19:51 am
Great :glare: Bottle Show coming up in March... I'll be able to get a REAL value on bottles if you have some you
like to know about... Don't believe ANYTHING you see on these shows...


Title: Re: Storage Wars
Post by: Flightfanatic on January 04, 2012, 10:10:02 am
Yea, I couldn't believe that guy's estimates on the trays. I just bought an original tray last week, and paid $18 (must have gotten a good deal for $100 tray  :biggrin:)..


Title: Re: Storage Wars
Post by: mznb1u on January 04, 2012, 10:31:10 am
Those old Coke crates range from $10 to $25 in our area; of course, it sounds like the price just went up.  :happydrinkers: I had some friends over on NYE and they were looking at my machines and started asking questions about Pickers/Pawn/Restoration etc.  I told them all that those shows are neat based on some of the stuff they "find" but that the prices are nowhere near reality for most of the items.  Also, filled them in on some of the "quality" restoration work done by he who shall remain nameless.

I like watching the shows just to see the stuff but the prices just kill me.  Brandi and Jared placing $500 on a used chest of drawers that you could buy for less than that new at a furniture store sale--they do have sales don't they?  :biggrin: 8) :laugh:

Of the shows, I think Pickers tends to give the closest to reality prices but even they go overboard sometimes.

 :drinking: Tim :drinking:


Title: Re: Storage Wars
Post by: bcharlton on January 04, 2012, 10:33:12 am
You are all correct.  I used to get a kick out of that show but it is not close to realism.  Maybe I will stop watching these so called "reality" shows and restore my Vendo 81a or another Seeburg C jukebox.

BC


Title: Re: Storage Wars
Post by: halehouse on January 04, 2012, 05:19:53 pm
Those old Coke crates range from $10 to $25 in our area; of course, it sounds like the price just went up.  :happydrinkers: I had some friends over on NYE and they were looking at my machines and started asking questions about Pickers/Pawn/Restoration etc.  I told them all that those shows are neat based on some of the stuff they "find" but that the prices are nowhere near reality for most of the items.  Also, filled them in on some of the "quality" restoration work done by he who shall remain nameless.

I like watching the shows just to see the stuff but the prices just kill me.  Brandi and Jared placing $500 on a used chest of drawers that you could buy for less than that new at a furniture store sale--they do have sales don't they?  :biggrin: 8) :laugh:

Of the shows, I think Pickers tends to give the closest to reality prices but even they go overboard sometimes.

 :drinking: Tim :drinking:

I have one that I had on CL, yellow with the dividers. I was just trying to clear out some of the small stuff. Never even got a nibble. I brought home a 7Up case w/ dividers and bottles along w/ some other items that a guy threw in with a 7Up cooler I bought this fall. I've put it on CL a few times at $10 w/ the bottles just to get it off the floor and not a nibble.


Title: Re: Storage Wars
Post by: Swachtelncc on January 04, 2012, 05:23:27 pm
Missed that episode, funny to see the fake prices t


Title: Re: Storage Wars
Post by: flippa on January 04, 2012, 06:08:33 pm
I just started watching some of these "reality" shows. 

I find that I can only watch American Pickers; it is the only thing anywhere close to reality.  There is no way they could stage the hoarders they visit or the places they go picking.  They seem to give realistic values to what they hope to flip stuff for.

But it is a show, so they ham it up and set up this crap for the drama too.  I saw an episode of Resto Rick where the Pickers found a 1955 Chevy for the Pawn Star guys and he has Rick restore it for some stupid amount of money.  It was so cheezy, they were all there.  And the restoration is a big  rush because it's for the old man's birthday.  Drama!!!!   What a joke.

Wonder if Pickers & Rick will all go to the Pawn Shop for Happy Birthday cake & ice cream when they finish it.  Maybe the Jersey Shore clowns will be invited too.


Title: Re: Storage Wars
Post by: Matt on January 04, 2012, 09:14:34 pm
The 1980s Coke machine seemed over priced. Thoughts?


Title: Re: Storage Wars
Post by: halehouse on January 04, 2012, 10:13:52 pm
There was a Breakmate type of machine too. I don't think they really said anything about it. Just as well I guess.


Title: Re: Storage Wars
Post by: briandr1 on January 04, 2012, 10:43:36 pm
lol flippa


Title: Re: Storage Wars
Post by: ciawarrior on January 04, 2012, 11:32:49 pm
John Nese, the person who gave those prices is the owner of "Galco's Soda Pop" in Southern California, I have been to the store once and it was pretty cool because there is every kind of old soda and candy there.  This guy knows his soda pop, but not sure he knows about collectables. 

Here is the website to the store if anyone cares: http://www.sodapopstop.com/


Title: Re: Storage Wars
Post by: cohammer on January 05, 2012, 08:44:37 pm
 I missed it but a guy stopped by my house today to look at my basement and with all the stuff I have in there now I know why he said look there is one of those gallon jugs worth $75.00 and I did tell him I had two for that price.


Title: Re: Storage Wars
Post by: TrevsOldChevs on January 14, 2012, 01:11:13 am
That's what drives me crazy about Storage Wars and shows like it...  :darn:

Someone gets a locker, wades in, puffs out their chest, looks at some worthless item and says "that's worth $300" (as an example) and it is added to how much money their locker is worth when usually in my experience the item they just mentioned is nowhere NEAR that value... their guess is just treated as fact and usually couldn't be further from the truth!

Even when they bring it to a so called "expert" as was the case with the bottles mentioned above anybody can say items are worth anything but to me that holds no weight... if the expert evaluates the item and says "I'll give you X number of dollars for it", pulls out his wallet and puts his money on the table THAT is where I start to believe that is the real value...

While I enjoy watching Storage Wars to see what treasures they find, I think they are really screwing up the market for those of us who like to buy old collectibles... hell, I have been to garage sales where 85 year old ladies are massively inflating their prices and telling me how much something is worth "because they saw it on the TV" and even Craigslist sellers are doing it... anybody want a Coke cooler for $650 because there's one on CL right now! Kinda takes the fun out of it when people are trying to gouge you because of a TV show...  :down:


Title: Re: Storage Wars
Post by: MoonDawg on January 14, 2012, 08:47:29 am
      Well stated Trev!


Title: Re: Storage Wars
Post by: BONOVOX on January 14, 2012, 09:14:59 am
Good post Trev!
Only 5 posts, and already complaining... My kinda guy! (my wife says all I do is complain.... maybe it's from years of watching Seinfeld lol)
Anyways, I couldnt agree with ya more.

 :happydrinkers:


Title: Re: Storage Wars
Post by: ciawarrior on January 14, 2012, 09:52:37 am
Agree and speaking of crazy prices, here are the bottles from the show selling.............

http://www.darrellgambler.com/cocacola-various-bottles-and-crate-144-prd1.htm


Title: Re: Storage Wars
Post by: Kilroy on January 14, 2012, 10:01:11 am
You have to be kidding me.


Title: Re: Storage Wars
Post by: johnnyfizz on January 14, 2012, 11:55:50 am
What gets me are the prices that some guys ask for a wooden soda bottle case.On ebay some auctions start @ $75.00. Usually faded colors and splintered wood.

Our local bottling works had bought their own garbage truck and it seems that every day there were heaping amounts of cases and bottles in the hopper, and I recall that sound when the rams would activate and scoop and crush and bust that wood and glass together.Who could have known that some 35 years later that was the sound of money getting hauled off to the landfill (dumps back then) to be buried forever.

I think a great idea for a new show would be one where they go into where old dumps used to be and carefully excavate layer by layer and see what turns up! With scrap metal prices where they are,that alone would pay the production costs!


Title: Re: Storage Wars
Post by: BONOVOX on January 14, 2012, 12:01:04 pm
Darrell is catching up to the level of Rick Dale!
I just checked out Darrells site, "About Darrell"  That is about as CHEEEEESY as the Popes favorite cheese (Swiss... cause it's holy)
Good night Cleveland!
 :happydrinkers:


Title: Re: Storage Wars
Post by: halehouse on January 14, 2012, 12:45:46 pm
That's what drives me crazy about Storage Wars and shows like it...  :darn:

Someone gets a locker, wades in, puffs out their chest, looks at some worthless item and says "that's worth $300" (as an example) and it is added to how much money their locker is worth when usually in my experience the item they just mentioned is nowhere NEAR that value... their guess is just treated as fact and usually couldn't be further from the truth!

Even when they bring it to a so called "expert" as was the case with the bottles mentioned above anybody can say items are worth anything but to me that holds no weight... if the expert evaluates the item and says "I'll give you X number of dollars for it", pulls out his wallet and puts his money on the table THAT is where I start to believe that is the real value...

While I enjoy watching Storage Wars to see what treasures they find, I think they are really screwing up the market for those of us who like to buy old collectibles... hell, I have been to garage sales where 85 year old ladies are massively inflating their prices and telling me how much something is worth "because they saw it on the TV" and even Craigslist sellers are doing it... anybody want a Coke cooler for $650 because there's one on CL right now! Kinda takes the fun out of it when people are trying to gouge you because of a TV show...  :down:

But are people actually getting the prices they are asking? Once they are told the bottles are worth $$$ or they see something on TV, are they able to actually sell for those prices? If not, they are going to have to come down or sit on it. I think the problem will be (or is) when people are paying those prices like they were with the housing market a few years ago. That's when the market will be screwed up. If not, won't the prices just adjust?


Title: Re: Storage Wars
Post by: halehouse on January 14, 2012, 12:47:56 pm
What gets me are the prices that some guys ask for a wooden soda bottle case.On ebay some auctions start @ $75.00. Usually faded colors and splintered wood.


Right. But what is most telling is if they sell or not. If they end at $75 with no bids, then that's all it was. Some guy asking for $75.


Title: Re: Storage Wars
Post by: Kilroy on January 14, 2012, 12:53:03 pm
I think you may find a very few  who pay those prices - either out of ignorance, or think the value will only go up - think how many people bought beanie babies for investment.

There are so many more tools availalbe today to make research easier, but it
s still the i saw it on Ebay, or on TV  logic, several items posted for  outrageous prices, yet they don't check to see if any actually sold at that price.

Personally, i'd like to  see the backlash when real experts chime in and   blow the lids of these shows. Once can dream...


Title: Re: Storage Wars
Post by: TrevsOldChevs on January 14, 2012, 03:40:20 pm
Only 5 posts, and already complaining... My kinda guy! (my wife says all I do is complain.... maybe it's from years of watching Seinfeld lol)
Anyways, I couldnt agree with ya more.

I'm old (51) and have been around women all my life so I figure I should be an expert complainer by now...  I'm  grumpy cuz I'm old and a quick learner, too... I studied under the best!  lol :biggrin:



Title: Re: Storage Wars
Post by: TrevsOldChevs on January 14, 2012, 03:50:43 pm
Agree and speaking of crazy prices, here are the bottles from the show selling.............

http://www.darrellgambler.com/cocacola-various-bottles-and-crate-144-prd1.htm

For some reason his price reminds me of a 1970's song by Kenny Nolan called "I like dreaming"... not sure why... lol 8)


Title: Re: Storage Wars
Post by: TrevsOldChevs on January 14, 2012, 03:57:52 pm
But are people actually getting the prices they are asking? Once they are told the bottles are worth $$$ or they see something on TV, are they able to actually sell for those prices? If not, they are going to have to come down or sit on it. I think the problem will be (or is) when people are paying those prices like they were with the housing market a few years ago. That's when the market will be screwed up. If not, won't the prices just adjust?

What I notice is crazy prices and things that used to sell quickly now sitting on the market for ages because the seller actually believes his price is right and that everyone contacting him is lowballing him or just being cheap... after all, if they saw an "expert" saying it must be worth a ton of money, the expert MUST be right, right? ;)

What sellers DON'T seem to realize is that NOTHING is worth more than the market will bear... yes, once in a while the seller will encounter a buyer with more money than brains who just HAS to have his item, but with money as tight as it is I don't think there are many of those around any more... :(


Title: Re: Storage Wars
Post by: Creighton on January 14, 2012, 06:37:02 pm
>> Personally, i'd like to  see the backlash when real experts chime in and   blow the lids of these shows. Once can dream...

I submitted a general concept for a real collectors show. Just missed cut-off for this season consideration.
There is interest but things seem to take a long time in TV production land. Why I do not know.
Any good news will get posted.

Creighton

 


Title: Re: Storage Wars
Post by: flippa on January 14, 2012, 08:36:30 pm
Hey guys, Darrell the Gambler here.

Welcome to my new website. This is the spot for all things “Gambler.” We’ve got your “Gambler” T-shirts exclusively sold on my site. Stuff you see me discover in lockers on the show will be offered here.

If you see me find something you’ve just got to have, come check out the website. Keep checking in for all the new items we add, and for all the latest news follow me on Twitter at @darrellgambler.

So, buy my T-shirt, follow us on Twitter, and get up off the couch and buy a storage unit.
Pay your rent … or you might just see your stuff end up on my site.



Title: Re: Storage Wars
Post by: flippa on January 14, 2012, 08:38:51 pm
Case of 24 CocaCola Bottles. Various styles and some are rare / vintage. As seen on TV. These are very collectible, and some are very rare.

We had them professionally appraised at $600. Due to the fragile nature of the contents, Local Pickup ONLY!




Title: Re: Storage Wars
Post by: flippa on January 14, 2012, 08:39:47 pm
 :Oo:  No comment.... :glare:


Title: Re: Storage Wars
Post by: shale on January 14, 2012, 09:07:38 pm
I might send him and email and say I'm interested! I wonder if he'll meet me half way between CA and NY so I can get them from him :tounge: Can't pass up that deal!


Title: Re: Storage Wars
Post by: Flightfanatic on January 14, 2012, 09:11:31 pm
That's understandable to have them "professionally appraised", but it were up to me I would just double check the appraisers quote. These days there are so many other sources to find out pricing information.. How can he honestly just off of one "price quote" and expect to sell it without researching it any further..

I would have at least buffed up the bottles and cleaned them before putting them for sale. Doing that he might be able to get an extra dollar :biggrin:


Title: Re: Storage Wars
Post by: halehouse on January 14, 2012, 10:15:39 pm
That's understandable to have them "professionally appraised", but it were up to me I would just double check the appraisers quote. These days there are so many other sources to find out pricing information.. How can he honestly just off of one "price quote" and expect to sell it without researching it any further..


If you are ever in Nevada, I know of a pawn shop you could double check with. Ask for a person by the name of Chumlee.  lol


Title: Re: Storage Wars
Post by: TrevsOldChevs on January 15, 2012, 01:10:47 am
At least that shop puts their money on the table and shows that at least to them an item IS worth that much! lol


Title: Re: Storage Wars
Post by: BONOVOX on January 15, 2012, 09:28:37 am
The thing I dont get with PAWN STARS is that why is a local Pawn Store in Vegas attracting people with items that belong in a museum?  I mean, Rick even brings in an appraiser, and gets it appraised for 10,000 bucks.  The appraiser would even say "It would have no problem selling at auction for 10,000) and then the appraiser leaves.... Rick offers 4,000... the guy/gal will say Ohhhh I dont know.. can you do better,.... Rick will say that there is no money left for me... blah blah blah... and then they agree on some STUPID low amount!

If I had a rare item where an appraiser came in, I would be following that appraiser out the door to say, hey, wanna sell this for me, you keep 10 percent?!?

PLUS, I went to the Pawn Shop in Vegas there last year, and I would say almost EVERYTHING in that store was CRAP!  There were no signed documents like you see on TV, no collector guns, no unique items, etc.... there was a LOT of souvenier t-shirts, magnets, etc....

AND if anyone else has been to the store, is it me, or does the store on TV look a little bit different than in real life?  The floor on tv looks all nice and carpeted, yet when I was there, it was a crappy cement floor.  THe cabinets on TV are all nice displayed items, yet in real life there are just PILES of crap filling the shelfs and counters. (10 and 20 dollar items)

ARgh... Im just bored and vented a bit lol... wife went out for the day, kids are watching Sunday morning cartoons ...........
Don't mind the spelling mistakes, Im just hitting send without lookin over.
 :happydrinkers:


Title: Re: Storage Wars
Post by: Pinballnut on January 15, 2012, 09:51:42 am
bonovox -  I know an arcade collector, in Detroit, that has an very unique one of a kind TRON.  He was contacted by the directors of Pawn Stars.  They wanted to fly his machine to NV, have someone to bring it it to sell and they were going to call their expert. Yeeeeep, you guessed it- they wanted him ( the owner ) to be the expert.

Ever wonder why the museum and gun guy's always walk right in and know all about that particular item?  My guess is it's theirs - straight off the wall of the gun store  or straight out the museum..


Title: Re: Storage Wars
Post by: halehouse on January 15, 2012, 10:40:05 am
The thing I dont get with PAWN STARS is that why is a local Pawn Store in Vegas attracting people with items that belong in a museum?  I mean, Rick even brings in an appraiser, and gets it appraised for 10,000 bucks.  The appraiser would even say "It would have no problem selling at auction for 10,000) and then the appraiser leaves.... Rick offers 4,000... the guy/gal will say Ohhhh I dont know.. can you do better,.... Rick will say that there is no money left for me... blah blah blah... and then they agree on some STUPID low amount!

If I had a rare item where an appraiser came in, I would be following that appraiser out the door to say, hey, wanna sell this for me, you keep 10 percent?!?


You're right. I've wondered the same thing. If you are being told it is worth $10k at an auction, why sell it to a pawn shop for 40% of that? Heck, stick it on eBay and see how it does or put it in some other auction then unless you need the money right away to pay off somebody.


Title: Re: Storage Wars
Post by: Kilroy on January 15, 2012, 10:58:42 am
I smirk if I watch these shows, it's all made for TV. Cops is prolly the only  un*staged "reality show", and I'm not sure about them sometimes.


Title: Re: Storage Wars
Post by: Ltransam on January 15, 2012, 11:03:03 am


 I second What bonovox Said I was Also there Last Sept . The Place looks run down on the Inside Nothing Was show Nice . Was Pushed Threw (I under Stand Its A Business ) But The Place Is Reallt Small Once your in there .And NO One from the Shows I'v seen was Even Working Or In there .

But I can Say I was There !


Title: Re: Storage Wars
Post by: MoonDawg on January 15, 2012, 03:59:49 pm
       Here's my beef with this show.
       Let's say I find a Vendo 81 in the storage locker I just bought. I know nothing about these "Ol' Coke boxes" so I take it down to the SMC pawn shop for appraisal. Being the honest dedicated businessmen you are, you would tell me my machine is worth $2000 to $2500 in auction but you will give me $1800 for it right now! :biggrin:    
      Or would you tell me the machine is only worth $500 to $600 but lay $400 cash down and save me the trouble of going through an auction?
      These pawn dealers are not in business to pay fair market value to anybody...... the more they have to pay out, the less profit they make. Who would actually trust a pawn dealers appraisal?
      


Title: Re: Storage Wars
Post by: TrevsOldChevs on January 15, 2012, 07:07:53 pm
I smirk if I watch these shows, it's all made for TV. Cops is prolly the only  un*staged "reality show", and I'm not sure about them sometimes.

OMG... you mean Survivor is staged too??? 
:jawdrop:

LOL... Man, now I'm totally disillusioned! ;) What are you gonna tell me next... that there's no Santa or Easter Bunny???  8)


Title: Re: Storage Wars
Post by: SIGNGUY on January 16, 2012, 09:51:46 am
       Who would actually trust a pawn dealers appraisal?
      
You hit the nail on the head... We'll stated!


Title: Re: Storage Wars
Post by: bcharlton on January 16, 2012, 10:33:48 am
Buyer and seller both "beware"

I visited the store last summer and it took 45 minutes to get into the place.  The "cast members" (that is what they are actually referred to) were not there that day.  However, I did got to see some of Rick Dales work (in the store) and I finally got to see that his stuff sucks in person.

BC


Title: Re: Storage Wars
Post by: halehouse on January 19, 2012, 10:33:47 am
I wonder how accurate this is:

http://www.celebritynetworth.com/richest-businessmen/barry-weiss-net-worth/


Title: Re: Storage Wars
Post by: Chedki on January 19, 2012, 02:01:54 pm
I don't know either but he's been shown driving several different restored old cars in the show. He's got some cool ones.


Title: Re: Storage Wars
Post by: cola62 on January 20, 2012, 07:55:34 am
If Barry is worth $7 mil he is obviously a better picker than he is on the show.  He always gets stuck with junk.