Title: Ideal 55
Post by: glassbottlesrule on June 26, 2004, 08:40:59 pm
Hi, I just picked up a new 55 in need of restoration(generic,cools,complete with slider) I am curious how this thing cools, I have never dealt with this style its a whole different animal than my vendo's I usually play with. My other question is how efficient these are to run. The wife says I have to get rid of a mchine and I am trying to decide between this and my vendo 63. thanks
Title: Ideal 55
Post by: on June 26, 2004, 11:02:08 pm
Just a thought Just fix it up keep it but don't run it thats what I have been doing I only run 1 and switch between the " 1" every so often just for kicks.:D
Title: Ideal 55
Post by: johnieG on June 26, 2004, 11:56:09 pm
here's a diagram I drew up for an earlier discusion on the Ideal 55, it shows how the cooling ( evaporator ) coils are run through the inside if the liner area (tank), as far as outright efficientcy is concerned, I'd say the 55 wins because it's convection cooled & doesn't have an evaporator fan/motor in the cooling compartment, or a lightup sign to add to the electrical load, the fan would consume about 2-10 watts, and a lightup sign would add another 10-20 watts or so. ( as compared to the V63)
Title: Ideal 55
Post by: Bob K on June 27, 2004, 07:52:58 pm
johnieg, you're diagrams are super 
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Bob K
.Bob K
Title: Ideal 55
Post by: Jim on June 27, 2004, 08:38:28 pm
He's definately an asset to this board! 
Title: Ideal 55
Post by: on August 21, 2004, 11:59:50 pm
If it runs as good and is economical as my Ideal 35 you will love it. Joe M
Title: Ideal 55
Post by: on September 13, 2004, 08:45:43 am
While we are on the subject of Ideal 55's, what is the range of cooling for one of these. I have one that I just replaced the fan motor on and it only cools to 50 degress on the lowest setting. This doesn't seem cool enough to me. Thanks.
Title: Ideal 55
Post by: johnieG on September 13, 2004, 09:04:04 pm
Typically between 55 F down to aprox. 30 F, a properly operating unit will put Ice on the inside walls at the lowest setting, sounds like yours could be in need of some service...
the most common mistake made is over charging the system, people think it isn't "getting as cold as it should" & toss in a can of refrigerant without using a gauge set to monitor the system pressures. (more isn't better, in fact it will damage the compressor in short order), does your machine have a service valve/port on one (or both) of the lines down underneath in the compressor area? this would be a clue as to if the unit has been serviced at some point. or it could have developed a leak & is quite low on charge, only a system pressure test will tell you where to start.
the most common mistake made is over charging the system, people think it isn't "getting as cold as it should" & toss in a can of refrigerant without using a gauge set to monitor the system pressures. (more isn't better, in fact it will damage the compressor in short order), does your machine have a service valve/port on one (or both) of the lines down underneath in the compressor area? this would be a clue as to if the unit has been serviced at some point. or it could have developed a leak & is quite low on charge, only a system pressure test will tell you where to start.
Title: Ideal 55
Post by: on September 14, 2004, 09:21:57 am
I will check the unit tonight for the valve/ports. I do not believe it has service ports. I bought the unit through a classified ad, cleaned it, repainted portions of it and it has been running fine until the fan motor went out, which I just replaced. However, it never has cooled down to 30F. It will ice up on the inside walls but still does not get down to 30F. I'm thinking I need someone to look at the compressor.
Title: Ideal 55
Post by: MoonDawg on September 14, 2004, 11:12:49 am
Sliders are almost the only machine built with service valves.
Ice on the walls tells me the compressor is doing it's job. Are you losing cold air due to a worn door or lid gasket?
Ice on the walls tells me the compressor is doing it's job. Are you losing cold air due to a worn door or lid gasket?
Title: Ideal 55
Post by: on September 14, 2004, 12:36:40 pm
Am I correct in stating that in order to have ice, the temp must be below 32 degrees (freezing)?
So if you have ice, it must be pretty close to 30 degrees. Right?
So if you have ice, it must be pretty close to 30 degrees. Right?
Title: Ideal 55
Post by: on September 15, 2004, 12:46:01 pm
The ice builds up on the inside front wall closest to where the bottles are pulled from the rack (left side). But thats the only area. True that it must be 32F to freeze, but that is concentrated at the walls where the ice forms. When a thermometer is placed inside the temp of the total volume is not at or below 32F, hence the liquid never freezes inside thye bottles.
So, does that mean that the problem is inside the area of the wall that freezes? Insulation problem or piping problem?
So, does that mean that the problem is inside the area of the wall that freezes? Insulation problem or piping problem?
Title: Ideal 55
Post by: MoonDawg on September 15, 2004, 06:09:02 pm
When a slider ices up, both the front and back walls are iced.
Sounds like you do not have a full freon charge
Sounds like you do not have a full freon charge