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Title: More Rick Dale/American Resto BS?
Post by: pinballdude on October 04, 2011, 10:27:10 pm
So is the single door Victor *that* rare? Only 200 still around?
And was this a *real* customer or some guy brought in from South Dakota
from his hunting lodge?
Nice machine. But the son is dumb as dirt. And the workers seem like they were
brought in outta the backwoods. I ain't impressed by all these reality show
know-it-alls spouting the history of their *finds*.
The sh*t is getting deeper...


Title: Re: More Rick Dale/American Resto BS?
Post by: cokecolaman on October 04, 2011, 11:23:40 pm
I agree...it's getting harder to watch...although, I've never seen the one door Victor in person...I'm guessing it really is rare.


Title: Re: More Rick Dale/American Resto BS?
Post by: BrianB on October 05, 2011, 06:44:04 am
That was the cooler that I was talking about in an earlier post an mistankenly identified it as a 1-door True Cooler.

Yes, the Victor 1-Door is uncommon but it still isn't classified as the "Holy Grail" of Coca-Cola machines as Mr. Dale stated. That's a HUGE stretch.


Title: Re: More Rick Dale/American Resto BS?
Post by: Eric on October 05, 2011, 07:11:08 am
Again I quit watching it.. The employees handling and lack of care for the items brought in,
the crazy prices he just quotes... only to add more to it as the time of pick up comes along.
and the lack of seeing the process... it comes in, you see a part sandblasted then next it's
complete.... all with these little pop up bubbles with wording about history of the item...

I had enough months ago. But most (90%+) don't know the difference in the history of the items
and/or don't care. I just didn't see reason to watch anymore...

Again I see better “Step by Step” right here... I've had pieces fabricated identical to originals
by hard working, caring folks with attention to detail (not some guy riding in on a motorcycle
with some handtools banging on a piece of metal to make a bike seat, that by the way you never
see completed).
This site is so much better than that show!


Title: Re: More Rick Dale/American Resto BS?
Post by: Marvin on October 05, 2011, 08:33:56 am
I watch the show to see what comes in the door.  I'm not impressed with the finished product that much.  I watch the pickers for the same reason.  Pawn Stars has some great stuff come in, but it's all set up.  It has to be.  People don't take stuff like that to a pawn shop.  Pawn shops get jewelry, tv's, radios, and tools.

This is the kind of TV people want to watch.  Why do good shows get cancelled and crap like Jersey Shore keeps moving along?  Today's kids are the "now" generation.  They don't grasp the concept of working for something.


Title: Re: More Rick Dale/American Resto BS?
Post by: SIGNGUY on October 05, 2011, 08:38:40 am
I watch the show to see what comes in the door.  I'm not impressed with the finished product that much.  I watch the pickers for the same reason.  Pawn Stars has some great stuff come in, but it's all set up.  It has to be.  People don't take stuff like that to a pawn shop.  Pawn shops get jewelry, tv's, radios, and tools.


Don't be fooled by Ricks customers either... Most of this is set up as well... I'd be that over 75% or more is actors and him pulling stuff out of the back yard to get restored... or like in my case.. they (the producers) bought two VMC 27's from me a few months back and one was just featured a few weeks ago... It was %100 set up and scripted and the fact that he had to "Search" for the missing parts.. like a drum for a 27 and another door (yeah those peices are readily available... ha ha..)  the other machine he bought from me had those parts... that is why I sold them as a set.. to make one complete one!...


Title: Re: More Rick Dale/American Resto BS?
Post by: Ltransam on October 05, 2011, 08:44:43 am

 All I can Say it Is Rare probably even by definition . But I have Seen 3 of them in My Tri-State area in Private collections over the last 10 years .2 in Kentucky And One in Ohio . But Worth $10.000 Grand NOT in my Oppion .

 I also Like The True Single Door



Title: Re: More Rick Dale/American Resto BS?
Post by: bcharlton on October 05, 2011, 09:00:21 am
There is only 1 Holy Grail of Coke coolers and  this is it.  The show is starting to suck big time for all the above reasons


Title: Re: More Rick Dale/American Resto BS?
Post by: collecture on October 05, 2011, 09:07:33 am
I got a Victor C-14 - first $10,000 gets it!  :biggrin:


Title: Re: More Rick Dale/American Resto BS?
Post by: Ken R on October 05, 2011, 06:08:35 pm
I've got the first Coke machine, coin-op, that ever rolled off the assembly line, first serial number and all.   :tounge:  And if you believe that one, I've also got some oceanfront property in Yuma I can sell you with it!!! :laugh:


Title: Re: More Rick Dale/American Resto BS?
Post by: VMAXMAN on October 05, 2011, 06:13:38 pm
I've got the first Coke machine, coin-op, that ever rolled off the assembly line, first serial number and all.   :tounge:  And if you believe that one, I've also got some oceanfront property in Yuma I can sell you with it!!! :laugh:
not interested in the machine but price on the property please  :laugh:


Title: Re: More Rick Dale/American Resto BS?
Post by: Ken R on October 05, 2011, 06:19:40 pm
Hhhmmm...make me an offer!!  :drinking:


Title: Re: More Rick Dale/American Resto BS?
Post by: loman4ec on October 05, 2011, 06:55:09 pm
is that cooler grill the one from the show? If it is that was my machine. it was a nice clean 3 door before it was hacked


Title: Re: More Rick Dale/American Resto BS?
Post by: David D on October 05, 2011, 09:11:38 pm
I agree the show has turned into a joke, oh wait it's been a joke since the first couple episodes when the converted a vendo into a cavalier machine....


Title: Re: More Rick Dale/American Resto BS?
Post by: RC kid on October 06, 2011, 06:15:17 pm
Reality shows are cheaper and easier to produce than any real form of entertainment. That's why they're making so many of them these days. And when you figure in the multiple six minute run of commercials, well, there's no time to show detail. And as for the crew, it just wouldn't be interesting to the common viewer if they weren't motley. Now for me...I agree with everyone else. I am tired of it and don't watch it as I did in the beginning. And as far as getting something restored by some famous guy, no! I don't think so. I don't think I could afford it.


Title: Re: More Rick Dale/American Resto BS?
Post by: memorylane on October 06, 2011, 08:56:55 pm
Brian your almost correct, This is what the real Victor Kooler Grill looks like. Your photo you posted of the griller has the wrong doors, all Victor Kooler Grills had Stainless Steel as in the photos of the one I restored.


Title: Re: More Rick Dale/American Resto BS?
Post by: Ken R on October 06, 2011, 09:06:30 pm
WOW!  Super nice!!  Now I know what I need to be watching for in all the barns around here, haha!


Title: Re: More Rick Dale/American Resto BS?
Post by: rayg on October 06, 2011, 09:12:47 pm
Once on the show Rick sent his kid and one of the workers to find some parts for a automatic coffee machine , (might have been a Stoner) and I did hear Rick say "We can't always find all the original parts so we have to make do with substitutes parts"


Title: Re: More Rick Dale/American Resto BS?
Post by: loman4ec on October 06, 2011, 10:25:46 pm
the cooler grill he made used to be a very nice Victor 3 door. I know as I sold it to him. What a shame. That was the most solid original 3 door I had ever seen.


Title: Re: More Rick Dale/American Resto BS?
Post by: mznb1u on October 07, 2011, 12:14:08 am
the cooler grill he made used to be a very nice Victor 3 door. I know as I sold it to him. What a shame. That was the most solid original 3 door I had ever seen.

And if you look at the pictures, he made it wrong.  The grill and stainless steek tubing ring is on the wrong end!  Oh well, at least it won't get mistaken for an original!

 :drinking: Tim :drinking:


Title: Re: More Rick Dale/American Resto BS?
Post by: davethebirdman on October 07, 2011, 05:04:00 am

And to be fair to Rick, he didn't try and pass it off as original. That show has only just aired over here. Wonder if he managed to sell it??



Title: Re: More Rick Dale/American Resto BS?
Post by: Grey Wolf on October 07, 2011, 08:45:02 am
And to be fair to Rick, he didn't try and pass it off as original. That show has only just aired over here. Wonder if he managed to sell it??



I just looked up his website and saw that it is still for sale for $27,000.  He also asks $5500 for restored 55 sliders, which I find a bit high.  lol.


Title: Re: More Rick Dale/American Resto BS?
Post by: bcharlton on October 07, 2011, 08:55:09 am
Curtis, your are correct.  I should have inspected the photo of the Victor Grill  more closely before I down loaded it.  Once again, you prove that you are "the man"!!!!

From now on I will stick to what I know.  Stoner candy machines and Seeburg jukeboxes.

BC


Title: Re: More Rick Dale/American Resto BS?
Post by: Ken R on October 07, 2011, 02:40:55 pm
BC, we got a couple Seeburg 100s up for auction next weekend.  Not sure what they'll sell for, but if you're interested, let me know and I can either send pics or show you were they are.

Ken


Title: Re: More Rick Dale/American Resto BS?
Post by: Kilroy on October 07, 2011, 02:50:31 pm
100 usually refers to the number of records it can play. The model number  has a letter or letters that will be more helpful


Title: Re: More Rick Dale/American Resto BS?
Post by: Ken R on October 07, 2011, 03:21:20 pm
I'll look on the data plate, if I can find it, tonight and let you know.  Is that something that is mounted to the inside or is on outside somewhere?  I did not see any dataplates when I took the initial pics.


Title: Re: More Rick Dale/American Resto BS?
Post by: bluebluejays on October 08, 2011, 12:09:46 pm
I own a restored Victor one door serial number 0034. Found the unit in upstate New York years ago and had it professionally restored. Resides in my game room in Florida. Will try and take some pics and post.
Regards,
Ken C.


Title: Re: More Rick Dale/American Resto BS?
Post by: cokecolaman on October 08, 2011, 03:48:52 pm
I'm a Victor Newbie...are any of them embossed? Did they ever show up in another flavor?


Title: Re: More Rick Dale/American Resto BS?
Post by: Mitch on October 08, 2011, 03:53:24 pm
Brian your almost correct, This is what the real Victor Kooler Grill looks like. Your photo you posted of the griller has the wrong doors, all Victor Kooler Grills had Stainless Steel as in the photos of the one I restored.

That my friend is an amazing restoration, impressive !!  :wow:


Title: Re: More Rick Dale/American Resto BS?
Post by: MoonDawg on October 08, 2011, 04:57:20 pm
       Ken C.------ Please submit a picture of your Victor, gotta' luv those coolers.

       Ron, yes most Victors are embossed but not all. The only off brand I have seen in person was a 3 door 7up embossed but and it looked awesome.


Title: Re: More Rick Dale/American Resto BS?
Post by: Slapshot42 on October 09, 2011, 01:56:37 pm
When I was there at the end of August it was in the hallway for sale.  ( Victor)


I think the piece that I expected more from was the Stoner Coffee machine.  It was above average, the woodgrain was pretty cool looking...


Title: Re: More Rick Dale/American Resto BS?
Post by: Jim on October 10, 2011, 08:27:06 pm
I own a restored Victor one door serial number 0034. Found the unit in upstate New York years ago and had it professionally restored. Resides in my game room in Florida. Will try and take some pics and post.
Regards,
Ken C.
I have posted Ken's Photos of both his Victor C-14 Single Door and his Vendo Milk Vendo ! ! !
They can be found in the Photo Gallery under Ken Cerra's Stuff (http://soda-machines.com/index.php?option=com_gallery2&Itemid=66&g2_itemId=6578) ! ! !


Title: Re: More Rick Dale/American Resto BS?
Post by: collecture on October 10, 2011, 08:59:02 pm
Very Nice Ken!
My C-14 is #121 and I want ot restore it. No place for it yet, but I have plans.
Of course, I'll say it again....first $10,000 gets it!
I like the Milk machine too....well done!!