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Title: AMERICAN RESTORATION
Post by: ciawarrior on April 12, 2011, 10:11:27 pm
FYI, American Restoration show starts back this Friday on the History Channel. 


Title: Re: AMERICAN RESTORATION
Post by: rayg on April 12, 2011, 10:37:35 pm
Thanks for the info, I check out their  site http://www.history.com/shows/american-restoration  I don't remember it being on , the 1st show aired 10-25-10 ........the only female on the show Kelley not bad..... May start to check it out .


Title: Re: AMERICAN RESTORATION
Post by: Pat Pixley on April 13, 2011, 09:15:52 am
OH Boy!! cant wait to see how many V39's he turns into Cav. 72's  or blow a hole right thew something when media blasting something   :upside:.
I know it is bringing people into this Hobby, But I think they could have choose someone else like Rod & Janet  Or Steve & Sharon or Carl coats
or Joe .

What ever I guess. :Oo:
  


Title: Re: AMERICAN RESTORATION
Post by: Kilroy on April 13, 2011, 09:53:09 am
I guess he's more  "interesting" , 
I still won't watch itl.


Title: Re: AMERICAN RESTORATION
Post by: Jim on April 13, 2011, 11:52:45 am
I'm posting this without permission of the sender, so I hope no damage is done...
I just wanted to let our members see how one person was treated when corresponding about a Vendo Milk Vendor restoration for the show...
Quote
Hello Jim,
Here is an update with the History Channel. Here is the "good" news. They, the producers, have approved my milk machine for a show segment.
Now the "bad news"! Their arrangement is for me, the owner, will be required to pay for the entire restoration process which is $6500 plus parts. Also, I am required to pay for roundtrip shipping to Las Vegas including my travel expenses. Incredible!!!
I mentioned to them that they would be reaping all the monetary benefits from the show and I will be paying for all the costs. I asked them to rethink the proposal and get back to me.
WOW!


Title: Re: AMERICAN RESTORATION
Post by: Larry on April 13, 2011, 12:07:47 pm
Such a deal!! :tounge:


Title: Re: AMERICAN RESTORATION
Post by: Kilroy on April 13, 2011, 12:30:13 pm
Wow...


Title: Re: AMERICAN RESTORATION
Post by: SIGNGUY on April 13, 2011, 01:23:36 pm
I was just going to mention that Jim, I too was contacted by the same guy to restore his Vendo Milk Machine and he told me about his "offer" on American Restoration.. .unbelievable!!

I guess I know why he likes my quote better than what was offered by them... :biggrin:

I do see they are asking for restoration projects... I sent them a couple and anxious to hear what they come back with... I threw out there a Popperette Popcorn machine and a Stoner Jr with Gum Wheel.. just to see if they respond?


Title: Re: AMERICAN RESTORATION
Post by: RED SPARKS on April 13, 2011, 04:20:55 pm
If I had the time and money and something that they might want to restore for the show then I would be down.  I would say $6500 for a milk machine restoration, that they should throw in a couple dairy cows.


Title: Re: AMERICAN RESTORATION
Post by: vintage-air on April 13, 2011, 04:37:20 pm
"That's why the "pilot" show didn't last. Not enough "suckers" needing their machines restored by a "Professional" and a quick 15 minutes of fame. I'm sure rick is a nice guy but after watching some of the Immature antics on the original show, makes me want to "tune out" and watch a re-run of The Andy Griffith Show!

(http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c283/bondovian/Picture3.png)


Title: Re: AMERICAN RESTORATION
Post by: BONOVOX on April 13, 2011, 07:15:18 pm
I questioned his magical transformation of the 39 into a Cav, from one of those Ebay listings with his name attached to it, and I got a reply that he was FORCED to do what he did (lie) by the producers. I replied back that no one can FORCE anyone to do anything that they dont believe in.  I never got a reply back.

Lets start a thread of what the producers could have said to him to FORCE him to lie on Pawn Stars;

"Hey Rick, if you dont do what we tell you to do..... we'll then we'll tie you up, tickle your feet and give you purple nurples till milk comes out"

OUT



Title: Re: AMERICAN RESTORATION
Post by: MoonDawg on April 13, 2011, 08:04:56 pm
       Maybe the producers told him that if they could pull this one off on the American public, they would give him his own TV show, charge people $6500.00+ for a restoration................................and would split it with him.  :biggrin:


Title: Re: AMERICAN RESTORATION
Post by: ciawarrior on April 13, 2011, 09:59:47 pm
Insane, I always wondered how it worked.  I was on there website a month back and asked for them to restore a machine, I figured it would be free for the restoration and then made the owner sign a waiver not to be paid for being on TV, but this is freakin nuts!  :veryangry:


Title: Re: AMERICAN RESTORATION
Post by: rayg on April 13, 2011, 10:15:31 pm
the sad part is they find people will to pay  :Oo:


Title: Re: AMERICAN RESTORATION
Post by: BrianB on April 14, 2011, 07:12:03 am
I was looking around on his website and was checking out his "For Sale" items. Apparently he has a Victor Kooler Grill for sale....Wonder if it's the real deal. Here's a pic.



Title: Re: AMERICAN RESTORATION
Post by: Larry on April 14, 2011, 07:49:43 am
Iwas on the web site and looked under episodes and one of them was turning an old cooler into that grill.  Not real.


Title: Re: AMERICAN RESTORATION
Post by: loman4ec on April 14, 2011, 08:36:25 am
I sold him a 3 door victor about 7 months ago. I wonder if that is it??


Title: Re: AMERICAN RESTORATION
Post by: BrianB on April 14, 2011, 11:15:02 am
Welp, it can be yours for the low, low price of $27,000.

Bad part, it's being represented as the real deal in the sales write-up. At least that's how I read it........


Title: Re: AMERICAN RESTORATION
Post by: collecture on April 14, 2011, 11:34:56 am
Everything is reversed from the original?
The grill and such should be on the left when looking at it from the rear.
What a joke!


Title: Re: AMERICAN RESTORATION
Post by: mznb1u on April 14, 2011, 02:03:44 pm
I was looking around on his website and was checking out his "For Sale" items. Apparently he has a Victor Kooler Grill for sale....Wonder if it's the real deal. Here's a pic.

He is trying to pass that off as  the real McCoy when the original was the same size as a 4 door?  I guess some shrinkage occurred in shipping on that model and as previously pointed out, the grill changed sides!

This guy is something else!

 :drinking: Tim :drinking:


Title: Re: AMERICAN RESTORATION
Post by: RED SPARKS on April 14, 2011, 06:27:56 pm
Misrepresenting something is wrong, but as it relates to the producers of the show having him do things that aren't 100% ethical is not suprising.  I think that American Pickers are from the same production company and I read that Danielle the "gal" at the shop was hired specific for the show.  She is a burlesque performer and roller derby girl...  Which was just the show needed to balance out the lack of personality from the other guys...  Its unfair if someone is mislead and I hopefully one's reputation would mean more than ratings but...  I wouldn't bet on it.


Title: Re: AMERICAN RESTORATION
Post by: rayg on April 14, 2011, 09:30:34 pm
On the show Danielle, said her and Mike go back a long way, also I like her, but not to crazy about all the tats


Title: Re: AMERICAN RESTORATION
Post by: Pat Pixley on April 14, 2011, 10:04:19 pm
Well The Bob & Tom Radio enterview Rick today he talked a little about the Victor and also about one of those Xray shoe machines they did .
what he has done will catch up with him  but not before he makes a cool stack of cash.


Title: Re: AMERICAN RESTORATION
Post by: Eric on April 15, 2011, 01:58:46 pm
I hope they revamped it... like actually showing the restoration process and showing a little more respect for the items
they are restoring.. did anyone see the one with the golf cart.... how they yanked it off the truck.. breaking a piece before it
even got into the shop or the one where they warped the crap out of the Hersey Candy dispenser by sand blasting the
thin, frail metal backing.... You would think they would already have known that would warp....
Show the process of making the parts needed... or history of the object they are restoring.... I don't need
to see the staged pranks or jokes... We'll see... He (show) won't make it if it stays the same...


Title: Re: AMERICAN RESTORATION
Post by: Kilroy on April 15, 2011, 02:40:25 pm
That episode was on this afternoon Eric, first time I watched the show.
I was rolling on the floor  when they were all amazed  about soda blasting .
And then annoyed when they charged one customer $2500  and 500 for parts to restore a bike ( not a motor cycle, a pedal bike, and another one that restored 1950's  refrigerators sell for 6000 restored.




Title: Re: AMERICAN RESTORATION
Post by: globalcompressors on April 15, 2011, 05:17:15 pm
I like the show...

the 39 to a 72 trick, was for filming only. Just because
you're a tv producer, doesn't mean you're the sharpest knife
in the drawer. We caught it, 99.99% of everyone else...didn't.
That's television!


Title: Re: AMERICAN RESTORATION
Post by: BONOVOX on April 15, 2011, 05:34:58 pm
True.... 99.9999 % of the people did not catch the lie, but if I ask 1 million people to buy land, swamp land that looks like farm land, and only 1 person buys it, it still makes me a sleezy swamp salesman!  :Oo:


Title: Re: AMERICAN RESTORATION
Post by: rayg on April 15, 2011, 05:41:59 pm
It must a sleazy Hollywood thing...I'm  sure this happens with allot of TV shows on cars , motorcycles, home repair etc...  there are experts in the field all saying the same thing...... what's on TV is BULLSH*T :censored:


Title: Re: AMERICAN RESTORATION
Post by: sodaworks on April 15, 2011, 09:18:16 pm
It's amazing he's still in business. I recall looking at his website a couple of years ago and his workmanship was crap.


Title: Re: AMERICAN RESTORATION
Post by: sodaworks on April 15, 2011, 10:05:35 pm
Just watched the episode of were Ric restored a Hop along bicycle. He charged the guy 3k for the restoration and the rear coaster brake arm wasn't even attached to the frame during the unvailing. For 3k he should at least put a freaking bolt on the brake arm. Jeez...


Title: Re: AMERICAN RESTORATION
Post by: Eric on May 19, 2012, 07:18:08 pm
I finally got to see the 39 to a 72.. it was on tonight... amazing... And it was Rick's (American Restoration Rick)
brother who brought the 39 in to begin with to the pawn shop... AND $300 for that shell!!?... No wonder Craigslist machines are crazy money now.... good TV stuff... But my kids knew the different models as I have them both
so kinda neat to hear my 7 and 10 year old say what they really are.
Must have been a slow day of filming for them to come up with that.


Title: Re: AMERICAN RESTORATION
Post by: cohammer on May 19, 2012, 11:22:49 pm
I do think the show has came around a little from the start. I think the coke machine and the gas pump he still has with the big dino on top was some  producer trying to make a big splash.


Title: Re: AMERICAN RESTORATION
Post by: Slapshot42 on May 20, 2012, 04:53:09 pm
I finally got to see the 39 to a 72..
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Look a this video they restored a 27 or shouldn't that be a 33???  :Oo:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=epaTcDxt7rU

It's t.v. at it's best it's all about ratings!!  I met Rick last year when I was in Las Vegas he was friendly enough to show us around.  I wasn't able to really see the quality of the machines since they were all locked.  All the items that were customer items were all for sale in the showroom.  I saw the Coca Cola Grill Cooler in was in the back there were several pieces missing off it though...  :upside: I have to admit it got me interested in the hobby but SMC  site fueled my interest and really got me collecting!  I have saved some serious money by just keeping up to date on the people's posts.



Title: Re: AMERICAN RESTORATION
Post by: Jacko1070 on May 21, 2012, 10:05:15 am
It's always amazed me why people are so willing to fork over huge amounts of money to this guy when, when it comes right down to it, he's just not that good.   At the end of every show when they are showing the old vs. new piece take a close look.   He always brags about the chrome work or the paint.   When they do show close-ups you will 9 times out of 10 see bleed over on the paint, overspray, an incomplete sanding job so surfaces are still rough, the list goes on and on.   It drives me nuts...............and I'm a newbie!!!


Title: Re: AMERICAN RESTORATION
Post by: cola62 on May 21, 2012, 10:47:59 am
As others have stated you have to remember it is a reality show. Which really means it is all staged.  It has been documented that a large majority of the customers and buyers are staged for the show.  Some even work on the show (producers, ect.)  Thats why many of the items that were restored supposedly for a customer are in reality still for sale by Rick.  Like the $10,000 coffee machine.  You just can't get caught up in the story line. 


Title: Re: AMERICAN RESTORATION
Post by: vintage-air on June 19, 2012, 03:35:23 pm
Well, I finally sold the RC 81 to none other than Tyler Dale...Ricks son. They picked it up yesterday and it's on it's way to Las Vegas. The story Tyler told me is that he is buying it for his dad and going to give it to him as a gift on the show after a full restoration. Don't know if I'll see it but thought it was a bittersweet sale because I don't watch the show much. Their mediocre resto's and overcharging of the customers are not very appetizing. Time will tell so we will see.


Title: Re: AMERICAN RESTORATION
Post by: mznb1u on June 19, 2012, 03:58:10 pm
Maybe they will convert it to a Coca Cola V-81!  Just kidding of course.  Hopefully you got your money's worth out of it.  It will be interesting to see how much they claim it is worth restored.  I am going to guess that they value it north of $20K.

 :drinking: Tim :drinking:


Title: Re: AMERICAN RESTORATION
Post by: MoonDawg on June 19, 2012, 04:39:42 pm
      Oh my!  This should probably have been started in a thread of it's own, I see a lot of discussion to be following this machine and it's fate.


Title: Re: AMERICAN RESTORATION
Post by: Slapshot42 on June 19, 2012, 04:40:52 pm
How did you advertise the machine?


Title: Re: AMERICAN RESTORATION
Post by: Marvin on June 19, 2012, 07:08:52 pm
I hope you got a premium price for your machine.   


Well, I finally sold the RC 81 to none other than Tyler Dale...Ricks son. They picked it up yesterday and it's on it's way to Las Vegas. The story Tyler told me is that he is buying it for his dad and going to give it to him as a gift on the show after a full restoration. Don't know if I'll see it but thought it was a bittersweet sale because I don't watch the show much. Their mediocre resto's and overcharging of the customers are not very appetizing. Time will tell so we will see.


Title: Re: AMERICAN RESTORATION
Post by: Eric on June 19, 2012, 09:42:05 pm
Can't wait to hear the story on how they find it... maybe in a old store back room.. or just a heart warming story
of Tyler and his dad... will be good TV I'm sure..


Title: Re: AMERICAN RESTORATION
Post by: Jacko1070 on June 20, 2012, 12:09:35 pm
Has anyone else noticed that the new season involves very little "restoration".   Basically heres the item I want to restore...............here it is restored.  Rest of the show is just 20 minutes of showing what idiots the staff are.   I don't think I've seen any episode yet that showed any of the restoration process


Title: Re: AMERICAN RESTORATION
Post by: BONOVOX on June 20, 2012, 12:25:39 pm
I bet they say they found the machine in a parking lot swap meet sitting under a table.  :Oo:



Title: Re: AMERICAN RESTORATION
Post by: jholmgren on June 20, 2012, 12:30:33 pm
Nah - an elderly Jewish couple from Manhatten are going to drive all the way to Vegas with it to be restored.  They'll have some story about how it's been in the family since their great-grandfather had it in his general store and would love to see it restored so their 26 grandchildren can get sodas out of it.


Title: Re: AMERICAN RESTORATION
Post by: vintage-air on June 21, 2012, 05:37:10 am
Well, only I and Moondawg know it's true history. I advertise the machine on CL and got my asking price. I din't think it would sell but he finally came up with the money and paid in full. Yeah, will be interesting to see the story they come up with on this machine.


Title: Re: AMERICAN RESTORATION
Post by: MoonDawg on June 21, 2012, 09:11:22 am
      Did you tell Tyler it's real history?
And how the dents on the top were intentionally made by a woman with a crowbar, angry about her divorce.  :biggrin:


Title: Re: AMERICAN RESTORATION
Post by: bcharlton on June 21, 2012, 10:19:33 am
I forgot about that.  A woman scorned.......   I will watch that episode.

Brian



Title: Re: AMERICAN RESTORATION
Post by: Chedki on June 21, 2012, 11:07:14 am
Did anybody see their new episode last night? They were having their first auction to sell some of their stuff. The auction was so obviously fake !


Title: Re: AMERICAN RESTORATION
Post by: Pat Pixley on June 21, 2012, 11:56:39 am
OK just my two cents .  Yeah it looked, hokey  but I'm sure Rick was put up to doing this by the producer. :Oo: 


Title: Re: AMERICAN RESTORATION
Post by: bcharlton on June 21, 2012, 12:19:46 pm
Pat....Please tell me we are not making excuses for Rick are we???????


Title: Re: AMERICAN RESTORATION
Post by: Pat Pixley on June 21, 2012, 01:16:08 pm
Sorry! But yeah I am , The producer may have said ratings are up lets try this and see how this works or the network may have pushed for it , Or the last one Rick may have done this on his own and the Producer said yes .

Or you all heard how TV adds 10 pound to that person maybe it was something like that   :biggrin:.

 Now his work I will question all day long , I have quoted something he did and and it did not turn out good at all. so it is a wait and see
where we go from there.


Title: Re: AMERICAN RESTORATION
Post by: Kilroy on June 21, 2012, 01:31:43 pm
So the $$ is more important than your name or the product you return to the customeR?  Make excuses all day, but if you say sure let's do it  because the producer thinks it good TV, when does it stop? When you decide a can of primer over the rust is ok instead of sandblasting?

I guess it's a matter of integrity. If you are going to play along and bait and switch  for the camera, how can I trust you won't do it for the expensively  priced "restore" you're doing for me?

Argue it's only for TV, but it goes a lot deeper in my opinion.

ok, I'm getting off my soapbox, now, i need to send it to Pat to restore


Title: Re: AMERICAN RESTORATION
Post by: Pat Pixley on June 21, 2012, 03:14:18 pm
Yeah that what I'm putting my money on that.  The  Producer tell him to jump and Rick ask how high and how much more will I get for it . :oh:


Title: Re: AMERICAN RESTORATION
Post by: MoonDawg on June 21, 2012, 05:11:58 pm
      I am guessing the producers are the real buyers of the RC 81, in fact they probably own most of the restored machines Rick has for sale.
      This would certainly not be a bad investment on their part.


Title: Re: AMERICAN RESTORATION
Post by: Kilroy on June 21, 2012, 05:34:18 pm
I have this sinking suspicion it is given to Rick as a wedding present from his crew


Title: Re: AMERICAN RESTORATION
Post by: vintage-air on June 22, 2012, 08:54:04 am
A wedding present...now that might be a possibility. I know Tyler was in contact with me for over a month through text message and phone calls asking if I still had the machine. He said he was waiting for his money to come in so he could make payment so I'm sure it was from the producers of the show. I know it's only business and they are now the current caretakers of the machine but I'm sure they will sell it to some buyer that will overpay for it...just because it was restore by one of "the best" restores out there. I am keeping my eyes open for another one if the chance ever arises.


Title: Re: AMERICAN RESTORATION
Post by: SIGNGUY on June 25, 2012, 08:29:06 am
      I am guessing the producers are the real buyers of the RC 81, in fact they probably own most of the restored machines Rick has for sale.
      This would certainly not be a bad investment on their part.
I would second that... when they bought the two VMC 27's from me last spring, it was the show producer from Leftfield Pictures who bought them from me and arranged to have them shipped to Ricks...


Title: Re: AMERICAN RESTORATION
Post by: SIGNGUY on June 28, 2012, 11:47:40 am
Tyler was emailing me during this whole transaction as well, asking me the value, and if felt this was a good deal and how many where made etc...

Now I see he has it pictured on his facebook page...