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Title: Value of CSS-12-96?
Post by: brasskey on October 16, 2010, 06:36:15 pm
This is for sale locally.  Paint is in good condition for the age, no dents, rust, or big scratches from what I could see.  The coin mech doesn't work but the compressor seems to be working well and keeps the unit cold.  Don't know much about soda machines, but everything else seems okay (no missing shelves, doors seem good, etc. It's for sale at $135.  That seems fair.  Is this a good price? Also, the plastic Coca-Cola insert on the top right of the unit is warped from the heat of the lighting I assume.  Is a replacement insert something that can be found easily?  If so, what are some good companys that might have parts for this model machine?  Thanks.



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Title: Re: Value of CSS-12-96?
Post by: Kilroy on October 16, 2010, 07:01:30 pm
Any of the sellers who banner's  are here will take care of you for parts.
Try for $100, just because, tell the seller you'll need to send out or buy a new coin mech and sign


Title: Re: Value of CSS-12-96?
Post by: brasskey on October 16, 2010, 10:10:35 pm
Thanks for the help.


Title: Re: Value of CSS-12-96?
Post by: loman4ec on October 17, 2010, 11:51:56 am
 don't think anyone make a lightup sign for the 96 however it is easy to make. Just go to a vinyl sign shop and take the frame and tell them what you want and they will make it for you. The sign that is in it was a replacement anyway from the late 70's to early 80's many bottlers changed the signs as the logo's changed to keep up with the new logo's. I would say that $100 to $125 is a great price as long as it cools. I also have a ton of parts for this machine if it is missing anything. Especially small parts like cap catchers and coin boxes. I attached a pic of another sign that was in the 96's.  This style is my favorite of the lightup signs but it is all personal preference.  This machine is long gone but it will give you an idea of what it looked like.


Title: Re: Value of CSS-12-96?
Post by: loman4ec on October 17, 2010, 11:54:00 am
It is also missing the chrome bottle opener trim and coin return chrome trim. I may have an extra. Let me know if you buy the machine and I will look for the trim.


Title: Re: Value of CSS-12-96?
Post by: brasskey on October 17, 2010, 04:04:14 pm
don't think anyone make a lightup sign for the 96 however it is easy to make. Just go to a vinyl sign shop and take the frame and tell them what you want and they will make it for you. The sign that is in it was a replacement anyway from the late 70's to early 80's many bottlers changed the signs as the logo's changed to keep up with the new logo's. I would say that $100 to $125 is a great price as long as it cools. I also have a ton of parts for this machine if it is missing anything. Especially small parts like cap catchers and coin boxes. I attached a pic of another sign that was in the 96's.  This style is my favorite of the lightup signs but it is all personal preference.  This machine is long gone but it will give you an idea of what it looked like.


I picked up the unit.  I'll be in touch for parts.  Thanks for the help.


Title: Re: Value of CSS-12-96?
Post by: tkaz on October 17, 2010, 04:21:52 pm
I just sent a CSS-12-96 shell to the scrapyard, I needed the compressor out of it for another machine.  I have the exact sign, in good shape, as well as a lot of other parts that I pulled off it, including the coin mech.  Let me know what you need, if Josh doesn't have it.


Title: Re: Value of CSS-12-96?
Post by: loman4ec on October 17, 2010, 07:01:45 pm
Tkaz go for it if you want to sell parts. My stuff is so scattered it will take me a while and a lot of searhing to find them I wasn't doing it for the money just to help a member so if you have the parts and you want to get rid of them have at it.

Josh


Title: Re: Value of CSS-12-96?
Post by: brasskey on October 21, 2010, 08:33:26 pm
Alright loman4ec and tkaz, here are some more pictures of the unit.  I haven't started to clean and take it apart yet so I don't know what all I need.  I need a parts manual for this unit so I'll have a better idea of what I need.  As this is my first attempt at fixing one up, suggestions from you all would be very valuable.  Take a look and see what you think.



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Title: Re: Value of CSS-12-96?
Post by: tkaz on October 22, 2010, 05:30:28 pm
Two quick observations, can you pull out the sign and take a photo of that?  Something seems strange, since it is sitting out about an inch; usually they are flush with the machine.  Second, is that a photo of another compressor third from last?  I couldn't figure out what was going on there.

Looks to be pretty complete, like it was said before, you'll need the two bezels for around the cap remover and change, I have both in good shape.  If the coin entry bezel is too beat up, I have that as well, in black.  Does the coin mech and vending work on it?


Title: Re: Value of CSS-12-96?
Post by: cokecolaman on October 22, 2010, 05:35:29 pm
I have had a number of these machines and sold them...some signs were flush and some were sticking out about an inch and I think that is normal for this machine.


Title: Re: Value of CSS-12-96?
Post by: brasskey on October 22, 2010, 06:41:39 pm
Two quick observations, can you pull out the sign and take a photo of that?  Something seems strange, since it is sitting out about an inch; usually they are flush with the machine.  Second, is that a photo of another compressor third from last?  I couldn't figure out what was going on there.

Looks to be pretty complete, like it was said before, you'll need the two bezels for around the cap remover and change, I have both in good shape.  If the coin entry bezel is too beat up, I have that as well, in black.  Does the coin mech and vending work on it?


Below are some photos of the sign.  Sorry for the confusing pictures on the compressor.  The 7th picture is the front view of the compressor and the 9th picture is the rear view.  The coin mech doesn't seem to be working though I am truly a novice at these machines.  I can just pull bottles out and when I try to put coins in they seem to get stuck on the top of the coin mech.  I'll have to try and look into it more.

I took some other pictures of the parts that are missing or worn on the front door.  If you have all these parts I'll be glad to buy them off you.  One other question I had deals with the front two red panels on the unit (the small door and the panel below it).  The panels have a red sticker covering (see last picture) while the actual metal panels are black.  Is this supposed to have this covering?  If I get the unit repainted should I paint these panels red or black?


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Title: Re: Value of CSS-12-96?
Post by: loman4ec on October 22, 2010, 07:01:27 pm
The red sticker used to be wood grain contact paper but it has been painted.


Title: Re: Value of CSS-12-96?
Post by: brasskey on October 22, 2010, 08:05:17 pm
The red sticker used to be wood grain contact paper but it has been painted.


So when people typically restore these do they replace the wood grain contact paper?  I think painting the panel red would look better.


Title: Re: Value of CSS-12-96?
Post by: Pat Pixley on October 22, 2010, 08:28:04 pm
OMG !  I feel ill wood grain  :help: .

  Don't put wood grain back on that machine leave that for the steel case Desk  :laugh:  Paint it Red ( do what you want  I just relly hate that wood grain look) :smile:   Those are good machines my first one was  Cav 96 never had a problem with it ran great.


Title: Re: Value of CSS-12-96?
Post by: brasskey on October 22, 2010, 11:24:58 pm
OMG !  I feel ill wood grain  :help: .

  Don't put wood grain back on that machine leave that for the steel case Desk  :laugh:  Paint it Red ( do what you want  I just relly hate that wood grain look) :smile:   Those are good machines my first one was  Cav 96 never had a problem with it ran great.


Thanks for the input.  I didn't know if collectors liked to put it back on.  I'll definitely paint it.  I know this is a newbie question, but where to I get the paint color codes for the red, white and black?  Will that be in the service manual?


Title: Re: Value of CSS-12-96?
Post by: scalebowler on October 22, 2010, 11:28:37 pm
You might even have some nice paint behind the woodgrain sticker. I have seen pictures of peoples machines on here where their machines had nice looking paint under the woodgrain.


Title: Re: Value of CSS-12-96?
Post by: brasskey on October 22, 2010, 11:30:13 pm
You might even have some nice paint behind the woodgrain sticker. I have seen pictures of peoples machines on here where their machines had nice looking paint under the woodgrain.

I'll peel back and check. 

Anyone know where I can order a service manual for this unit?


Title: Re: Value of CSS-12-96?
Post by: David D on October 22, 2010, 11:51:00 pm
I have a manual for a CS96, it's the earlier model and somewhat similar.  Send me a PM if interested and I'll email you a copy.


Title: Re: Value of CSS-12-96?
Post by: brasskey on October 23, 2010, 12:10:28 am
I have a manual for a CS96, it's the earlier model and somewhat similar.  Send me a PM if interested and I'll email you a copy.

PM sent. Thank you.