Title: Connecting a compressor for testing
Post by: on February 15, 2004, 04:50:16 pm
Hello, I have a 1957 vendorlator 110 that has the compressor disassembled from the cabinet. It has the condensor and evaporator connected, but the fans have been taken off. It is a pancake style. Out of the side of the compressor is an area where there is three pins where the relay goes. This is where I need help. The pins are in a triangular shape, with one at a point and two lower. The relay has a yellow and a red wire that has an end that would fit these pins. Also have a round thermal overload switch that has a black wire that goes to one of these pins. The question is which one goes where?
The relay and overload switch have a screw apiece that looks like they can be hooked up to a cord for testing purposes. After this is rigged, can I run it for a minute or two to check if it is working?
I think that the dryer is a hotdog shaped piece in the copper line, does it go bad and how do you tell. I have seen the discussion on a 110 before, but the schematic is a little different than mine and want to be sure.
Thanks
The relay and overload switch have a screw apiece that looks like they can be hooked up to a cord for testing purposes. After this is rigged, can I run it for a minute or two to check if it is working?
I think that the dryer is a hotdog shaped piece in the copper line, does it go bad and how do you tell. I have seen the discussion on a 110 before, but the schematic is a little different than mine and want to be sure.
Thanks
Title: Connecting a compressor for testing
Post by: on February 15, 2004, 08:29:52 pm
pic of compressor
Title: Connecting a compressor for testing
Post by: johnieG on February 15, 2004, 09:37:59 pm
This should help... off of my '53 V110...johnieG
Title: Connecting a compressor for testing
Post by: on February 16, 2004, 09:54:11 am
Hey JohnieG
Thanks. Thats exactly it.
How did you attach you pic and get it to show up? I used the fie attachment and could not get it to show up.
Faygo, you must be from Detroit also.
Thanks. Thats exactly it.
How did you attach you pic and get it to show up? I used the fie attachment and could not get it to show up.
Faygo, you must be from Detroit also.
Title: Connecting a compressor for testing
Post by: johnieG on February 16, 2004, 05:57:56 pm
attachments must be in jpeg format, & not too large, 3"x5" is usally fine, also they must be under 204,800K in size.
Yep I'm from the Detroit area, I'm up between Flint & Pontiac
Yep I'm from the Detroit area, I'm up between Flint & Pontiac
Title: Connecting a compressor for testing
Post by: on February 17, 2004, 08:08:22 pm
Hey JohnieG,
I am in the process of a frame up resto of a 7up 110. I dont know your background, but you seem to know a lot about refrigeration. Can I ask your opinion about what you perfer--a new compressor or using the old one that seems to work like a workhorse. I have seen +'s and -'s about both. New ones are a little more energy efficient. But I like the idea of using a 50 years old motor, and can always swap out a new one IF it goes. Do they still make a compressor that looks like this pancake style?
Thanks
I am in the process of a frame up resto of a 7up 110. I dont know your background, but you seem to know a lot about refrigeration. Can I ask your opinion about what you perfer--a new compressor or using the old one that seems to work like a workhorse. I have seen +'s and -'s about both. New ones are a little more energy efficient. But I like the idea of using a 50 years old motor, and can always swap out a new one IF it goes. Do they still make a compressor that looks like this pancake style?
Thanks
Title: Connecting a compressor for testing
Post by: johnieG on February 17, 2004, 10:17:14 pm
Well it's a crap-shoot, 
as you've stated the compressors got a lot of miles (hours) on it. I've refurbished machines that are still going on their original compressors, the thing to do is get it checked out by having it serviced for proper refrigerant charge/pressure & current draw on the motor, heat will kill a compressor quicker than anything, so a good coil cleaning is a must! as is a fresh coat of semi-gloss black paint as it helps Dissipate the heat . and you might as well replace the condensor & evaporator fan motors right now, & save yourself the trouble later (they always seem to go, just after you got it together, & are showing it off to your buddys 
)
if they came with a fan-shroud keep it! it helps direct cool air to were it's needed. replace the old starter relay with a new electronic one, give Eric at Global compressors a call & give him the history of your machine, he'll give you an honest opinion.
as you've stated the compressors got a lot of miles (hours) on it. I've refurbished machines that are still going on their original compressors, the thing to do is get it checked out by having it serviced for proper refrigerant charge/pressure & current draw on the motor, heat will kill a compressor quicker than anything, so a good coil cleaning is a must! as is a fresh coat of semi-gloss black paint as it helps Dissipate the heat . and you might as well replace the condensor & evaporator fan motors right now, & save yourself the trouble later (they always seem to go, just after you got it together, & are showing it off to your buddys )if they came with a fan-shroud keep it! it helps direct cool air to were it's needed. replace the old starter relay with a new electronic one, give Eric at Global compressors a call & give him the history of your machine, he'll give you an honest opinion.
Title: Connecting a compressor for testing
Post by: on February 18, 2004, 10:25:04 pm
JohnieG,
I followed your instructions and the compressor started right up and even though its 30 in the garage, the evaporator went from cold to extremely cold in about a minute. I will have it checked out by a refrig. guy later.
Thanks
Do you know how to decode a Vendorlator serial number for when it was made? I know how Vendo works but not Vendorlator.
Model no. H110 F
Serial no. 105096 F51
I followed your instructions and the compressor started right up and even though its 30 in the garage, the evaporator went from cold to extremely cold in about a minute. I will have it checked out by a refrig. guy later.
Thanks
Do you know how to decode a Vendorlator serial number for when it was made? I know how Vendo works but not Vendorlator.
Model no. H110 F
Serial no. 105096 F51