Title: R134a Self Piercing Saddle Valve? Or R12 to R134a Adapter? Post by: dr galaga on March 26, 2010, 06:44:29 pm I had Eric at GC rebuild the cooling system in my Cavalier CS80 about 5 years ago. A few weeks ago it starting icing up a bit. Eric said that I could try bumping up the charge, or send it in for replacement. He pointed me to a self-piercing saddle valve (for 5/16" line), but it didn't have the fitting on the end that I needed to charge it with R134a (from Auto one) (looks more like it is used for water). Found one at Fun-Tronics that should work, but again, the recharge hose would not fit on it. Went to AutoZone to see if I can find something that will work. The guy looked at it and said that the valve had an R12 fitting. He told me to check out a cooling supply parts store in town. All they had was the exact one I got from Fun-Tronics. He said that they do not deal with automotive cooling products.
Any ideas guys? Anyone know where to get a self-piercing valve that will accept the R134a, or where to get an adapter? Title: Re: R134a Self Piercing Saddle Valve? Or R12 to R134a Adapter? Post by: bubba on March 26, 2010, 08:32:35 pm I would think there should be an adapter for an R-12 fitting to fit a R134A hose.. What about one of those A/C retrofit kits that convert 12 systems to 134A?
Title: Re: R134a Self Piercing Saddle Valve? Or R12 to R134a Adapter? Post by: johnieG on March 26, 2010, 09:27:50 pm You'll have to use a standard 1/4" saddle valve & install a R134a low-side adapter to allow you to recharge the system with a can of R134a found at any auto supply store.
Title: Re: R134a Self Piercing Saddle Valve? Or R12 to R134a Adapter? Post by: dr galaga on March 27, 2010, 08:58:51 am install a R134a low-side adapter Would this be in a retrofit key like Ken talked about? I've been trying to find a kit, but the auto parts stores that I have checked so far don't have any in stock yet. They tell me it is only a summer item. :Oo: Title: Re: R134a Self Piercing Saddle Valve? Or R12 to R134a Adapter? Post by: johnieG on March 27, 2010, 11:06:27 am if you go to Autozone, the will allow you to go into the bqack with them to the seasonal/AC area & locate what you wish, you have to tell them that you are repairing an automobile & need the parts now, some other suppliers may only have them shipped to them depending on what season it is.
Title: Re: R134a Self Piercing Saddle Valve? Or R12 to R134a Adapter? Post by: loman4ec on March 27, 2010, 04:28:57 pm Or if you want to shop online this place has a lot
http://stores.ebay.com/Frosty-Freeze-AC-Products-Company Title: Re: R134a Self Piercing Saddle Valve? Or R12 to R134a Adapter? Post by: dr galaga on March 27, 2010, 05:39:13 pm Thanks for all of the suggestions. The guy that was helping me at AutoZone did go in the back to see if he could find a kit, but they didn't have any back there. I looked a little on ebay this morning and I sent a message about this auction (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=110512153513&viewitem=) asking for some more info.
Title: Re: R134a Self Piercing Saddle Valve? Or R12 to R134a Adapter? Post by: Yarochrehc on March 28, 2010, 04:43:52 pm You might have to find a refrigeration manifold guage hose that goes from the old 1/4" flare fitting to the auto 134A valve on the cylinder. Most refrigeration parts suppliers 134A tanks use the 1/4" flare.
I found mine at a Auto Value store. |