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Title: Vendo 44 Restoration
Post by: cdc1960 on December 30, 2009, 05:34:34 pm
Hello all.... I've been reading the forum everyday, for over a month now, and thought I'd try posting.... We've had a V44 for about 15 years, it's been sitting in a corner waiting for a restoration. I realize that I could probably buy a decent machine for the same or less money than I'm going to put in to this one, but I enjoy the restoration process more than sitting looking at the finished product, so here goes...

The machine had been turned into a refrigerator about 20 years ago (apparently a common practice   :darn:) and all the internals, coin door and mech had been discarded.... here's how it looked when I bought it for next to nothing...



Title: Re: Vendo 44 Restoration
Post by: cdc1960 on December 30, 2009, 05:35:36 pm
the bondo on the bottom of the front door was so thick, you couldn't see the Vendo embossing....


Title: Re: Vendo 44 Restoration
Post by: cdc1960 on December 30, 2009, 05:36:36 pm
so I started by stripping out the refrigeration equipment, which worked fine...


Title: Re: Vendo 44 Restoration
Post by: cdc1960 on December 30, 2009, 05:41:01 pm
....and then stripped down the cabinet, removed the galvanized tub (which had also been painted)...and sandblasted the cabinet and door..


Title: Re: Vendo 44 Restoration
Post by: cdc1960 on December 30, 2009, 05:41:47 pm
more...


Title: Re: Vendo 44 Restoration
Post by: cdc1960 on December 30, 2009, 05:46:21 pm
I then stripped all teh galvanized pieces with Poly Strippa, and did a mockup with the new stack I received from Fun Tronics (nice piece)... I then did all the hammer and dolly work on the cabinet and door, and then primed the two pieces...


Title: Re: Vendo 44 Restoration
Post by: cdc1960 on December 30, 2009, 05:51:07 pm
next is paint, which we're doing at a buddy's shop 'cause mine doesn't have the room to make a temporary booth without having to back one of the cars out, and it's snowing and about 3F outside right now... white is going on first.... then, it's waiting for more parts  :smile:

Chris


Title: Re: Vendo 44 Restoration
Post by: Eric on December 30, 2009, 06:30:19 pm
Looking great... that machine is lucky you found it... will be nice to see a great model brought back!...
keep the images coming!


Title: Re: Vendo 44 Restoration
Post by: cdc1960 on December 30, 2009, 06:36:32 pm
thanks Eric, I think this one will be a lot of fun to do...

Chris


Title: Re: Vendo 44 Restoration
Post by: halehouse on December 30, 2009, 11:29:39 pm
That looks well on its way! Looking good.

What is the chest you have pictured under your username?


Title: Re: Vendo 44 Restoration
Post by: cdc1960 on December 31, 2009, 01:32:25 am
Thanks... the chest is a Cornelius SVM-48E3 that I found in three feet of snow in the woods north of Lake Superior in 1988... it needed both fan motors and the top sign, but other than that, with a good cleaning it's been running since...

Chris


Title: Re: Vendo 44 Restoration
Post by: Chedki on December 31, 2009, 02:14:49 am
Thanks... the chest is a Cornelius SVM-48E3 that I found in three feet of snow in the woods north of Lake Superior in 1988... it needed both fan motors and the top sign, but other than that, with a good cleaning it's been running since...

Chris

Could you post a picture of it so we can see it ?


Title: Re: Vendo 44 Restoration
Post by: Funtronics on December 31, 2009, 07:54:12 am
Looks like you are doing a great job on the 44. Can't wait to see pictures of it when you get it done. When you get it all done send Janet before and after pictures and we will try and post it on our web sight.  :happydrinkers:
Rod


Title: Re: Vendo 44 Restoration
Post by: RC kid on December 31, 2009, 09:11:56 am
Good luck with your Vendo 44. I think those are really neat machines.


Title: Re: Vendo 44 Restoration
Post by: SIGNGUY on December 31, 2009, 09:45:25 am
I found in three feet of snow in the woods north of Lake Superior in 1988...
Chris
Where are you located? I see Lake Superior? are you a NW Wisconsin guy? or Northern MN?..
I'm in NW Wisconsin as well!
Looks great, cant wait to see it finished and welcome to the Group!


Title: Re: Vendo 44 Restoration
Post by: cdc1960 on December 31, 2009, 01:22:36 pm
Thanks everyone for the comments.... here are 4 pics of the Cornelius. We were living in Northern Ontario at the time, 20+ years ago, and this machine was in the woods next to a hunt camp that was beside a friend of mines house, east of Thunder Bay....  (now we live in Alberta)

Rod, thanks for the comments, I'll send some pictures to Janet when it's done...


I forgot to mention... apparently the 44 was changed in to a fridge because it had been hit by a car while sitting in a garage.... that's why there was so much filler on the main door...
 
Chris


Title: Re: Vendo 44 Restoration
Post by: SIGNGUY on December 31, 2009, 01:34:57 pm
I'm not familiar with that cornelius. is it just light reflected on the top or does it havea light up top?
that would really cool if that top lights up? wow


Title: Re: Vendo 44 Restoration
Post by: Crazzy Canuck on December 31, 2009, 01:37:00 pm
Welcome to the forum and you're on the right track with the 44. I myself live in Ontario. I've come across hundreds of those Cornelius' but have never seen one with a lid  like that. That's pretty cool.


Title: Re: Vendo 44 Restoration
Post by: cdc1960 on December 31, 2009, 01:52:15 pm
Signguy, thanks... it's a fluorescent light in the top, the switch sticks out of the lid on the right hand side, the power cord is visible in the tag picture... When I purchased the fan motors from Coke in Toronto (1989), the guy on the parts counter asked me if I was sure of the model number, as he had only ever seen one other, and that was supposedly in the Coke offices in Toronto.... I believe it's a Canadian only model, as you can see on the tag that it's only got the CSA approval on it... the parts guy said that the units were used in remote places with low turnover as it only holds 48 bottles in the rack. There is room for another 24 or so down below in a little pre-cool area next to the condensor...

Thanks for the welcome Crazzy Canuck (and everybody else)... here's a pic inside the cornelius...   

Chris 


Title: Re: Vendo 44 Restoration
Post by: Crazzy Canuck on December 31, 2009, 02:05:28 pm
So there's no mech and it's a free vend? If there's no mech it probably was only their (coke's) offices then.


Title: Re: Vendo 44 Restoration
Post by: Chedki on December 31, 2009, 03:07:42 pm
Whoa ! Love that light up lid. Thanks for posting the pics.  8)


Title: Re: Vendo 44 Restoration
Post by: mznb1u on December 31, 2009, 03:14:52 pm
Chris,

Welcome to the group.  :happydrinkers: I like that Cornelius with the lighted top and the 44 looks great.  The 44 is high on my list but I have yet to find one that fits the fun budget!

 :drinking: Tim :drinking:


Title: Re: Vendo 44 Restoration
Post by: cdc1960 on December 31, 2009, 05:37:10 pm
Thanks Tim ( I think this one will exceed the fun budget by the time I'm done  :laugh: ) and thanks Chedki....

Crazy, when I got the machine it was missing the coin box and mech, but you couldn't remove product as the arm was frozen... I diconnected the pin that held the arm to put it in free vend, but it defintely looks like it was used to vend... the coin slot on top will accept coins up to a quarter... here's a picture of the right side... (the earlier pic of the inside has the door open and the slider moved to the right to show the lower cool area, and the position for loading bottles)

Chris


Title: Re: Vendo 44 Restoration
Post by: cdc1960 on December 31, 2009, 05:43:12 pm
here's a better picture of the top of the machine....


Title: Re: Vendo 44 Restoration
Post by: Crazzy Canuck on December 31, 2009, 07:52:27 pm
Okay. I understand now. I see a white switch/button on the top, I take it that's for turning off/on the light in the lid. I like it.


Title: Re: Vendo 44 Restoration
Post by: cdc1960 on December 31, 2009, 11:23:44 pm
Exactly.... by the way, Happy New Year from a missplaced Torontonian...


Title: Re: Vendo 44 Restoration
Post by: Crazzy Canuck on December 31, 2009, 11:35:51 pm
Thankyou. Happy New Year from a Trentonian :happydrinkers:


Title: Re: Vendo 44 Restoration
Post by: halehouse on January 01, 2010, 11:10:47 am
That chest cooler is really neat. The light up lid is unique.


Title: Re: Vendo 44 Restoration
Post by: MoonDawg on January 01, 2010, 01:40:24 pm

 (now we live in Alberta)


         Welcome to the group Chris. That Cornelius looks so cool, thanks for the pic's.
         I'm in California now but originally from Calgary. Where are you?


Title: Re: Vendo 44 Restoration
Post by: cdc1960 on January 01, 2010, 02:18:38 pm
Thanks MoonDawg... we're in Calgary.... with the minus 22c last night, I think I'd prefer California...

(Thanks halehouse)


Title: Re: Vendo 44 Restoration
Post by: GreginNM on January 01, 2010, 03:37:32 pm
Calgary, now that brings me back to my younger years!  Spent time there when I was younger, and absolutely loved it there!  I'd live almost anywhere in BC, Alberta, or Newfoundland in a heartbeat!


Title: Re: Vendo 44 Restoration
Post by: Kilroy on January 01, 2010, 04:34:36 pm
Thanks MoonDawg... we're in Calgary.... with the minus 22c last night, I think I'd prefer California...

(Thanks halehouse)

-22c = -7 F  Cold anyway you look at it =)


Title: Re: Vendo 44 Restoration
Post by: cdc1960 on January 02, 2010, 01:54:00 am
Kilroy's right...or you could just sum it up by saying...

"colder than a mother in law's kiss"




Title: Re: Vendo 44 Restoration
Post by: SIGNGUY on January 02, 2010, 10:49:36 pm
Speaking of cold...
just checked the outside temp.. -16 degrees right now... no wind chill.. at least not yet!
No hott tubbing outside tonight! :oh:


Title: Re: Vendo 44 Restoration
Post by: Crazzy Canuck on January 02, 2010, 11:00:58 pm
Can you say turtle John :laugh:


Title: Re: Vendo 44 Restoration
Post by: VMC 81 on January 03, 2010, 02:32:19 pm
sorry for the cold guys but it was in the lows 60s yesterday at the coast and will be in the mid 60s today.


Title: Re: Vendo 44 Restoration
Post by: cdc1960 on January 03, 2010, 07:09:17 pm
  :censored:  Five more winters and I'll be on the coast... (GreginTex, trade ya for Texas straight up)

back from paint today.....


Title: Re: Vendo 44 Restoration
Post by: cdc1960 on January 03, 2010, 07:12:17 pm
....and at the risk of hijacking my own thread (again)... I dug this out of the crawl space today.... it hasn't seen the light in 10 years.... still in a moving box, a little worse for wear, but I think I can get it looking good again... appears that the left valve took a whack in a move and need straightening...  :darn:

Chris


Title: Re: Vendo 44 Restoration
Post by: cdc1960 on January 05, 2010, 04:11:21 pm
Got a little more progress to share....Painted the embossed portions of the door by hand last night, second coat today....

Chris



Title: Re: Vendo 44 Restoration
Post by: GreginNM on January 05, 2010, 05:32:47 pm
Nice job so far, Chris!  Lettering looks good! 

As crazy as it sounds, I'd be amiable to the trade (Texas for Alberta)!


Title: Re: Vendo 44 Restoration
Post by: Crazzy Canuck on January 05, 2010, 07:05:22 pm
Forget the pain on the embossing, I wanna see that picture in the background. LOL


Title: Re: Vendo 44 Restoration
Post by: halehouse on January 05, 2010, 08:07:59 pm
Forget the pain on the embossing, I wanna see that picture in the background. LOL

lol  Great minds think alike. I noticed that too.


Title: Re: Vendo 44 Restoration
Post by: cdc1960 on January 05, 2010, 09:32:17 pm
I'm sure there's a pop machine on this poster somewhere...   :biggrin:

GreginTex, it's snowin' and -14c or 6f right now, with a low of -23c or -9f tonight.... I think that there's more than soda in your machines... LOL

chris


Title: Re: Vendo 44 Restoration
Post by: Crazzy Canuck on January 17, 2010, 08:13:04 pm
I just found one of those Cornelius chest by me today. Light up lid etc. Might bring to Chicago in the spring


Title: Re: Vendo 44 Restoration
Post by: cdc1960 on January 17, 2010, 09:52:01 pm
Crazzy, have you got a picture?

here's what I ended up doing this weekend... instullation, liner, chrome trim and breaker strips... went with styrofoam (waterproof) instead of fiberglass.... while it ended up fine, pain in the rear to shape...found out the hard way that the sides are 1 1/2 inches but the back is only an inch...sealed with tape on the seams... I thought I'd try the foam cause I can't stand how itchy you get from the pink fiberglass...

here are some pictures of the progress...

Chris  


Title: Re: Vendo 44 Restoration
Post by: cdc1960 on January 17, 2010, 09:53:14 pm
one last one...


Title: Re: Vendo 44 Restoration
Post by: RC kid on January 17, 2010, 09:57:37 pm
Looking good!


Title: Re: Vendo 44 Restoration
Post by: Crazzy Canuck on January 17, 2010, 09:58:40 pm
This one has a bevelled/sloped lid and is not flat. This is the only pic I have right now.


Title: Re: Vendo 44 Restoration
Post by: cdc1960 on January 17, 2010, 10:04:40 pm
Crazzy, looks like the same machine as mine... the picture angle that I took makes mine look flat, but it's the same, take a look at the side shot where you can see the light switch....same machine... is it yours yet?...   any idea what coin mech is in it?

Chris

(Thanks RC)


Title: Re: Vendo 44 Restoration
Post by: Crazzy Canuck on January 17, 2010, 10:11:37 pm
Hopefully tomorrow. Scoop it on my way to a job out of province


Title: Re: Vendo 44 Restoration
Post by: cdc1960 on January 17, 2010, 10:13:47 pm
cool.... curious as to the coin mech, mines been missing since I got it... also what kind of plate is on the coin bezel... mine's missing, just the two screws sticking out..


Title: Re: Vendo 44 Restoration
Post by: Crazzy Canuck on January 17, 2010, 10:15:32 pm
I have a feeling I'm gonna be in the same boat as you as the ad states side panel is missing.


Title: Re: Vendo 44 Restoration
Post by: cdc1960 on January 17, 2010, 10:17:15 pm
hopefully it's just the small acess panel on the left side of the machine, mine's missing too...


Title: Re: Vendo 44 Restoration
Post by: cdc1960 on January 17, 2010, 10:26:46 pm
here's pictures of the two sides...



Title: Re: Vendo 44 Restoration
Post by: Crazzy Canuck on January 17, 2010, 10:32:29 pm
Thanks. Crossing my fingers. In the one side pic, is that a key in the top


Title: Re: Vendo 44 Restoration
Post by: cdc1960 on January 17, 2010, 11:23:44 pm
Yup, on the right side, the key is on the top of the panel... it's the access to the mech, and to open the side of the machine to slide the slider to the right to load the machine... good luck, hope it turns out well, the machine looks like it's in  great shape...


Title: Re: Vendo 44 Restoration
Post by: cdc1960 on January 18, 2010, 07:40:55 pm
so... crazzy, any luck?

Chris


Title: Re: Vendo 44 Restoration
Post by: Crazzy Canuck on January 18, 2010, 10:33:47 pm
Tried getting a hold of the guy today but no luck. He sent me an e-mail earlier and still has it. Thank goodness my job got put off till tomorrow night.


Title: Re: Vendo 44 Restoration
Post by: cdc1960 on January 21, 2010, 07:52:46 pm
Any more news Crazzy?


Title: Re: Vendo 44 Restoration
Post by: Crazzy Canuck on January 22, 2010, 03:11:30 pm
I can pick it up but I myself don't really want it. No room in the house as it is and already picking a 1/2 dozen machines in Chicago in the Spring.
 Was planning on buying it to flip. If anyone else is interested I'll buy it and bring to Chicago in April.


Title: Re: Vendo 44 Restoration
Post by: cdc1960 on February 04, 2010, 11:11:22 pm
Been doing a little more work on the 44.... installed the drain tube, then the cleaned up refrigeration unit, coin door, door locks, drip tray, vend stack... it's starting to look like a coke machine again... lot's of minor adjustments, tack welds, cutting and fitting, but it's starting to come together....


Title: Re: Vendo 44 Restoration
Post by: cdc1960 on February 04, 2010, 11:13:14 pm
....and here's how it looked an hour ago... still need finish the inner door, liner, etc, paint the coin door, order decals from Fun Tronics, and find a bezel.... anybody have one out there?

Thanks,

Chris


Title: Re: Vendo 44 Restoration
Post by: mznb1u on February 04, 2010, 11:48:11 pm
 :happydrinkers: Looking good! :happydrinkers:

 :drinking: Tim :drinking:


Title: Re: Vendo 44 Restoration
Post by: Funtronics on February 05, 2010, 06:52:29 am
I just sent a bezel off to be chromed. Should have it back in two weeks. Give me a call and Janet can give you the info on it.
Rod
Fun-Tronics
217-857-1759


Title: Re: Vendo 44 Restoration
Post by: Ltransam on February 05, 2010, 10:47:37 am


Man Looks Great !!!

      Wish I had extra Cash  just to restore 1 ofthe 18 machines I have That Need It  :oh:


Title: Re: Vendo 44 Restoration
Post by: cdc1960 on February 05, 2010, 10:54:41 am
Thanks everybody... Thanks for the bezel info Rod! I'll phone Janet today   :happydrinkers:


Title: Re: Vendo 44 Restoration
Post by: cdc1960 on February 05, 2010, 10:18:40 pm
Thanks to Rod and Janet I now have located all the parts I need to finish... Fun Tronics rocks....


Title: Re: Vendo 44 Restoration
Post by: cdc1960 on February 13, 2010, 07:11:30 pm
a little more progress to report...  installed the inner and outer chute, cap catcher, and the mechanism that connects the coin mech to the vend stack... lots of adjusting there, but now vends effortlessly... next is the chute hinge and flap, inner linner and gaskets... once it's all complete, I'll break it down and paint the coin door, install the decals and the bezel coming from FunTronics, and she's done....

Chris


Title: Re: Vendo 44 Restoration
Post by: Kilroy on February 13, 2010, 07:20:57 pm
Looks Good!


Title: Re: Vendo 44 Restoration
Post by: cdc1960 on February 24, 2010, 09:37:15 pm
Just a quick update... Gasket and inner liner installed, coin door and handle plate on front of coin mech removed and getting painted this weeked.. I'll post more pics this week...

Chris


Title: Re: Vendo 44 Restoration
Post by: cdc1960 on March 14, 2010, 09:23:16 pm
Been a little slow with the pictures lately... here's how it looks tonight... waiting on the last few parts to arrive, and she'll be done..

Chris


Title: Re: Vendo 44 Restoration
Post by: tkaz on March 14, 2010, 10:16:03 pm
Thanks for the photos, great work bringing that machine back. 


Title: Re: Vendo 44 Restoration
Post by: Creighton on March 15, 2010, 05:09:46 am
Very Nice!! Good for another 50 years. Congrats.
Creighton


Title: Re: Vendo 44 Restoration
Post by: mznb1u on March 15, 2010, 07:00:20 am
Excellent work!  :happydrinkers:

 :drinking: Tim :drinking:


Title: Re: Vendo 44 Restoration
Post by: Funtronics on March 15, 2010, 07:27:27 am
WoW !!
You did a great job. Hope the bezel works out for you. Let me know.


Title: Re: Vendo 44 Restoration
Post by: SIGNGUY on March 15, 2010, 08:39:36 am
Looks great,, it's very rewarding to bring a machine back to life isn't it... :happydrinkers:


Title: Re: Vendo 44 Restoration
Post by: cdc1960 on March 15, 2010, 09:11:58 am
Thanks for all the comments and compliments guys... Appreciate everyone help and advice... can't wait to get the bezel, Rod... I hope to finish this one this weekend... I think when it's done, it's going to be too nice to run...  :laugh:

Chris


Title: Re: Vendo 44 Restoration
Post by: mznb1u on March 15, 2010, 01:51:02 pm
Is the vending stack in that machine a reproduction?  If so what did it run and will it vend both bottles and cans?

Thanks!

 :drinking: Tim :drinking:


Title: Re: Vendo 44 Restoration
Post by: cdc1960 on March 15, 2010, 06:38:13 pm
Tim,

it's a repro that I got from Funtronics, made completely of stainless steel. I've gone over this thing carefully, and it's very high quality, both in construction, welding, fit and operation..... just lubricate the moving parts with white lithium and it vends cans right out of the box, and will vend the old style small bottles with the addition of the included clear vinyl sleeves... I did try vending the newer 8 oz bottles which as you know are smaller in diameter than the old ones... it seemed to handle them ok, but did give a double vend every so often... I think that issue could be resolved by installing a split piece of hose over top of the sleeves to make the diameter of the shafts even wider, but I haven't tried that yet... I'm still trying to decide how we are going to use the machine when I'm finished, we might just plug it in every once in a while, as we're using the V63 for daily use...I honestly don't remember exactly what I paid for it, but around $800 seems right... it was the last one they had in stock, but that was before Christmas....

Chris


Title: Re: Vendo 44 Restoration
Post by: cdc1960 on March 20, 2010, 12:27:22 pm
FINISHED! Rod, the bezel worked out just fine, thanks very much.... do you still want me to send you some before and after shots with higher res for your page?

Chris


Title: Re: Vendo 44 Restoration
Post by: cdc1960 on March 20, 2010, 12:27:49 pm
one more...


Title: Re: Vendo 44 Restoration
Post by: Funtronics on March 20, 2010, 07:41:44 pm
Chris:
Looks great and glad that everything worked out for you. Yes please send the pictures and I will try and post them on our sight.  Fill it up and enjoy it.  :happydrinkers: