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Ok,  so I have this stoner 180 (I believe), by the way can anyone identify the model for me? I got the locks drilled.  The machine looks complete inside.  There is lots of candy dust inside. Whats the best way to clean this mess up?  There is a locking money box under the coin mechanism.  It also has a tubular lock.  Before I drill it also, does anyone know if I can get a key for it it?  It has more information on the lock that the other two had.  It states that  it is the Chicago Lock Co. with Ace imprinted in the middle and "NV 11" imprinted around the parimeter.  I need an operating manual so I can determine how to operate the machine.  The coin mechanism looks confusing to me. I believe it accepts quarters and dispenses change. I will try to attach photos but the size is an issue. Is it easy to remove the candy dispensing assembly and coin mechanism from the body of the machine? Give me some pointers people.  Thanks. Bob

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That Looks very similar to my Stoner....

Does it actually function correctly??? Put money in Pull Handle Flap fall down????

The Ace lock... There's a few guys here that do have keys. I 'd wait a while and see if they can come up with one
Or check with www.crowriver.com or ebay Ace keys are always on ebay but in the medium term if one doesn't turn up just
do the same as you did with the cabinet door.. You should then be able to replace both of them on the same key.

My machine doesn't have a coin box lock fitted. I guess that your machine was put somewhere where it was being filled by someone other than the operator.

The coin mech is very confusing for me too... It slides out by depressing the lever on the bottom...

The vending mech comes out by undoing the screws at the top and you can pull it out of the cabinet. You can then high pressure wash it to clean it up... Just make sure everything is secure and you don't have it too high to blow off springs etc.

My machine was restored when I bought it. But if it wasn't I would have had the cabinet done but would have left the vending mech... Its far to complcated for a mere mortal like me...

Have you seen Curtis's work??? Perfection.. But many hours work...

This is what I did hope it helps....

Dave

By the way.... You can add to your first post rather than use seperate posts...

If you are replying without pictures just use quick reply...

If you want to add photos hit the reply tab at the bottom of the last post...

Dave

I merged them all together, but as Dave mentioned, please keep everything in one thread. Its much easier for everyone to follow and assist.

Bob,
Hey at least you got it open, your on a roll now.. don't let all the complicated mechanisms and such scare you.. they look intimidating at first, unti you spend some time playing around with stuff, you'll eventully figure most of it out..
I'd definatly say it's a Stoner 180 with gum wheel.. not sure if they had different ids for the different mirror styles, but the base model is certainly a 180, or at least that is the most common reference number.
As far as cleaning it .. Like Dave said, take out the vending rack , locate the screws holding it in , should only be a 3-4 Its heavey so ask for help.. once out, Hose it down, spray some simple green or some other degreaser all over let it sit, andthe pressure wash it down... once clean, or as clean as that can get it, dry it off completely, use air, and or sit in the sun and make sure it dries completely... check all the mechanicals.. see if it accepts coins and vends properly? there should be a bypass on the coin mech,, usually a little lever that pulls out near the front that will alow it to vend without the coin in the mech.. or take the mech off and make sure the vend handles and flaps work correctly... As far as the mech,, try cleaning it seperately again, check the operation and you can then decide if it works fine the way it is or talk to some members on the board about restoring it? all depends on what you want..
If your going to go as far as restoring the insides... you have to ask yourself how mechanical you are and decide if your going to tackle it,, it will be a project, but can be done..
Hope this helps.?

Thanks for all your suggestions so far.  I am still confused about how to "test operate" the machine.  I put a dime in it and tried to pull a handle(s) and they wont pull.  Its like there is something simple to do and I just don't understand it.  What is that grey plastic piece on the front bottom of the coin mechanism that has 2 spots in it that probably holds 2 different size coins?  And the tubular mechanism that is about a foot long with holes in it, likely holds coins for change dispensing I would guess?  What is a 180 M machine?  I see some parts manuals advertised for stoners, do these contain operating instructions also?  It looks like the slug ejector lifts up and out like the vendo 81 coke machine I have.

Any replacement locks like these out there?  Older original or reproductions are OK.  The one with the protruding cylinder looks odd.

Anyone able to decipher the serial number for me.  Year manufactured,etc?

Bob

Take the coin mech out....

There's a little lever on the bottom and it should slide out

Then ensure that the flap is up on one column and pull the lever to see if it vends...

Dave

Like Dave said, once the coin mech is removed it should just free vend.. as long as all the "Flaps" are up.. pull on one handle and it should drop the bottom flap, do again and the next one goes.. do this in all your columns to check proper operation of the vending mechanism.. once this is done, we can start to diagnose the problems with the mechanism..
as far as your questions about the tubes, yes, sounds like you have a change giver mech.. hence the long tube for nickels I'd guess...
As far as locks, sorry, hard to find the right locks for these...
As far as serial number, again, can't help you there...
As far as 180 M you asked about.. I am guessing it's due to the larger mirror model, (yours) vs a smaller rounded mirror model like you see on the jr's.. just a guess..
Keep playing,, eventually you'll figure out more things..

for your locks take them to your local locksmith shop they will be able to
cut yousome keys and for the lock you drilled out he may have one there. :smile:

Hi All.  Thanks for the pointers.  I took the coin mechanism out easily just like you stated.  Fiddled around with the vending pulls a little, but still cannot get one of them to pull out and drop a pretend candy bar in the shoot. The pulls only move about 1/3 of an inch.  I must not be doing something right. There appears to be no damage to the area.  I must not be tripping something right.  Do I need to clean the coin mechanism.  It doesn't look to bad.  A little gear grease on a couple of gears.  I was surprised to see the slug ejector is made of mostly plastic. I am going to remove the bolts and remove the innards from the cabinet and clean it as directed in an earlier post.  I wish I had a manual for this machine.  I have been trying to move different rods, ect. to get it to vend.  Keep the help coming.  I really appreciate it .  Bob

The manual is not very helpful.  It's more of a parts list.  I have an original manual and the only thing that was useful was how to pull the tab out on the coin mech for free vend, while testing, as Signguy mentioned.

How to set the mech at different prices.  By opening or closing the claw looking gizmo.

To make sure that all flaps are in the up position, by running your finger up from the bottom shelve to the top shelf, before vending.

To start loading the product from the top down, instead from the bottom up, to make sure that when the last product is dispensed.  The out flag will appear so you know that section is empty.  The top shelf in the up position resets that. 

Also remember that if you have an empty column, the handle will not pull.

Here's a picture of the vending mech taken apart.  The top is the claws I was refering to.

The 57 at the beginning of the serial number indicates the year manufactured.  I have the same machine except mine is a cream color.  When I refinish it I am going with the hammertone--haven't decided on green or bronze.

 :drinking: Tim :drinking: