Title: Vendo 56
Post by: Kevin C on January 10, 2005, 06:35:24 pm
hello
Here is a picture of my current project.
Kevin
Here is a picture of my current project.
Kevin
Title: Vendo 56
Post by: on January 11, 2005, 08:07:28 am
I like it!
How much work are you gonna have to do on it?
How much work are you gonna have to do on it?
Title: Vendo 56
Post by: Kevin C on January 11, 2005, 09:55:54 am
Hello
It appears that the cooling system is not operating but I will be able to better evaluate this problem when I get another garage pass to play with my toys. I am hope one night this week to take it apart.
The paint is rusted pretty good on the top between the door & case. It appears that it may not have been closing properly and started to sweat. The bottle door appears to have swollen and does not close properly. This is a solid door with the red coke caps unlike my other machines with the glass doors. Anyone have any ideas on the is swollen door issue?
I plan on keeping this machine due to its different style & paint but I am always looking for a new project.
Kevin
It appears that the cooling system is not operating but I will be able to better evaluate this problem when I get another garage pass to play with my toys. I am hope one night this week to take it apart.
The paint is rusted pretty good on the top between the door & case. It appears that it may not have been closing properly and started to sweat. The bottle door appears to have swollen and does not close properly. This is a solid door with the red coke caps unlike my other machines with the glass doors. Anyone have any ideas on the is swollen door issue?
I plan on keeping this machine due to its different style & paint but I am always looking for a new project.
Kevin
Title: Vendo 56
Post by: on January 11, 2005, 12:00:49 pm
I love the whole "garage pass" thing. That's great, I'd never thought of it that way. 
I usually wait until the whole family goes to bed, then I stay up very late tinkering with my "toys".
I usually wait until the whole family goes to bed, then I stay up very late tinkering with my "toys".Title: Vendo 56
Post by: Jim on January 11, 2005, 03:51:15 pm
Kevin,
Please be more descriptive as the door frames are made from metal and aren't really prone to "swelling"... Perhaps the screws that fasten the hindge to the bottle door have loosened causing the door to not seal properly... Or the hindge could be bent from someone applying to much pressure to the bottle door in a backward direction...
Just a couple of suggestions...
| Quote |
| The bottle door appears to have swollen and does not close properly. |
Please be more descriptive as the door frames are made from metal and aren't really prone to "swelling"... Perhaps the screws that fasten the hindge to the bottle door have loosened causing the door to not seal properly... Or the hindge could be bent from someone applying to much pressure to the bottle door in a backward direction...
Just a couple of suggestions...
Title: Vendo 56
Post by: Kevin C on January 11, 2005, 07:23:18 pm
Hello
Here is a picture of the backside of the door. It appears to be covered with a gray plastic but it could be gray sheet metal. In the picture you can see the bulge in the gray backing down towards the bottom third of the door. You can see that there are no screws in the door frame to allow for taking this door apart.
I made the picture a little larger.
Kevin
Here is a picture of the backside of the door. It appears to be covered with a gray plastic but it could be gray sheet metal. In the picture you can see the bulge in the gray backing down towards the bottom third of the door. You can see that there are no screws in the door frame to allow for taking this door apart.
I made the picture a little larger.
Kevin
Title: Vendo 56
Post by: Kevin C on January 12, 2005, 09:18:44 pm
Hello
Here is another picture of the swollen coke door. The backside does appear to have a plastic cover.
Kevin
Here is another picture of the swollen coke door. The backside does appear to have a plastic cover.
Kevin
Title: Vendo 56
Post by: Kevin C on January 12, 2005, 09:22:59 pm
Hello
Missed adding the picture.
Kevin
Missed adding the picture.
Kevin
Title: Vendo 56
Post by: Kevin C on January 12, 2005, 09:24:32 pm
Hello
Here is a picture of the top of the coke door.
Kevin
Here is a picture of the top of the coke door.
Kevin
Title: Vendo 56
Post by: Kevin C on January 12, 2005, 09:36:32 pm
Hello
I also removed the refrigeration unit from the Vendo 56 tonight. I did get a nice surprise & figured out that I have an electrical problem with the refrigeration system and not a freon leak. When I plug in the main electrical cord only the upper evaporator fan motor would come on. When I plugged the compressor plug into an extension cord the compressor & the lower coil fan motor came on & started to cool. Started to cool by icing up the upper evaporator coil. So I will order a new wiring harness tomorrow while at work plus I will pick up two new fan motors and thermostat.
You can see the frost in the picture.
Does anyone want these two operational fan motors? Let me know.
Kevin
I also removed the refrigeration unit from the Vendo 56 tonight. I did get a nice surprise & figured out that I have an electrical problem with the refrigeration system and not a freon leak. When I plug in the main electrical cord only the upper evaporator fan motor would come on. When I plugged the compressor plug into an extension cord the compressor & the lower coil fan motor came on & started to cool. Started to cool by icing up the upper evaporator coil. So I will order a new wiring harness tomorrow while at work plus I will pick up two new fan motors and thermostat.
You can see the frost in the picture.
Does anyone want these two operational fan motors? Let me know.
Kevin
Title: Vendo 56
Post by: loman4ec on January 12, 2005, 10:44:10 pm
Why would you replace two good fan motors? A good running fan motor will still have some time left on it.
Title: Vendo 56
Post by: Kevin C on January 13, 2005, 09:07:40 am
Hello
I look at it like this. While the unit is apart it is better to replace the most likely problem to come up in the future rather than just put it back together & have a motor go belly up. Plus if I am selling these machines to my friends it would be nothing worse than having something go wrong with it after I sold it. If I was selling & shipping out of state to someone I would never see again I may not worry about a failure down the line. I am a contractor (builder, plumber, Heat/Air) and preventive maintenance to stop future problems is big in my mind. I hope this explains why I would do this.
But the bottom line is selling these things to friends.
Kevin
I look at it like this. While the unit is apart it is better to replace the most likely problem to come up in the future rather than just put it back together & have a motor go belly up. Plus if I am selling these machines to my friends it would be nothing worse than having something go wrong with it after I sold it. If I was selling & shipping out of state to someone I would never see again I may not worry about a failure down the line. I am a contractor (builder, plumber, Heat/Air) and preventive maintenance to stop future problems is big in my mind. I hope this explains why I would do this.
But the bottom line is selling these things to friends.
Kevin
Title: Vendo 56
Post by: loman4ec on January 13, 2005, 11:09:10 am
You are right. I didn't relize that that you were selling them. I do remember you saying something about that in the past now.
Title: Vendo 56
Post by: Kevin C on January 13, 2005, 11:45:35 am
Josh
Where is your post about coke paint colors? I think I am going to bite off repainting this V56.
Kevin
Where is your post about coke paint colors? I think I am going to bite off repainting this V56.
Kevin
Title: Vendo 56
Post by: loman4ec on January 13, 2005, 12:18:24 pm
I don't know if I had one. I have never used an actual Coke red. I went to a PPG and dupont store once and looked them up and I found that there is a whole bunch of coke red's out there. As you know from looking at different machines Coke often changed its colors through the years. My painter used Dupont NASON paint and the color is Sprint red. It is a good red to use. NASON isn't the best paint in the world but the machine will never see the light of day again so fading won't be a problem. But again it isn't exact. But if you use the 50's coke red that people use on the round tops it won't be correct either. I know you have seen this picture before but this is the Sprint red.
Title: Vendo 56
Post by: Kilroy on January 13, 2005, 12:36:40 pm
Coke paint codes
At first I felt funny linking to another soda machine site, but since Soda-Machines.com is an advertiser here, may as well share the info I've found.
At first I felt funny linking to another soda machine site, but since Soda-Machines.com is an advertiser here, may as well share the info I've found.
Title: Vendo 56
Post by: Kevin C on January 16, 2005, 09:03:16 am
Jim
Yesterday I removed the coke bottle door to try to figure out the problem with bulge in the backside of the door. The door was coverd with plastic & the door is filled with white styrafoam (SP). So my plan is to remvoe the plastic cover, scrape out the styrafoam, install new insulation & then a new back cover made out of metal. I will paint the metal white to match the rest of the door.
Kevin
Yesterday I removed the coke bottle door to try to figure out the problem with bulge in the backside of the door. The door was coverd with plastic & the door is filled with white styrafoam (SP). So my plan is to remvoe the plastic cover, scrape out the styrafoam, install new insulation & then a new back cover made out of metal. I will paint the metal white to match the rest of the door.
Kevin
Title: Vendo 56
Post by: loman4ec on January 16, 2005, 11:23:43 am
I have also heard of people cutting out the solid insert on the bottle door to make it a glass door machine. Glass bottle doors were an option on the V56's. Machines like yours without the light up sign and solid bottle doors were named the Thrifty Vend Because of their lack of flashy options. Adding things like a glass door and a lighted sign will only increase the value of the machine when you are ready to sell it. Just an idea.
Title: Vendo 56
Post by: Kevin C on January 16, 2005, 11:41:45 am
Josh
I had not thought about that but I kind of like the coke battle cap look of the door. Very different than any other that I have seen.
Here is a close up picture.
Kevin
I had not thought about that but I kind of like the coke battle cap look of the door. Very different than any other that I have seen.
Here is a close up picture.
Kevin
Title: Vendo 56
Post by: Kevin C on January 16, 2005, 11:45:41 am
Hello
Please look at this picture. What could be the cause of the black smoke type stain in the area where the coin changer hangs? I wiped/cleaned the smoke stains off yesterday.
Could it be the changer over heating? The changer I removed from this machine works & is currently installed on one of my other machines. This appears to be a common problem.
Ideas?
Kevin
Please look at this picture. What could be the cause of the black smoke type stain in the area where the coin changer hangs? I wiped/cleaned the smoke stains off yesterday.
Could it be the changer over heating? The changer I removed from this machine works & is currently installed on one of my other machines. This appears to be a common problem.
Ideas?
Kevin
Title: Vendo 56
Post by: loman4ec on January 16, 2005, 04:24:40 pm
It probably had a bad changer in it at some point. Looks to me like a burnt board or something. About the bottle door if you decide you want to make it glass let me know. I looked in the garage and I found an extra set of origional glass and the hardware to hold it in if you want it. If you pay shipping you can have it.
Josh
Josh
Title: Vendo 56
Post by: Kevin C on January 16, 2005, 05:42:28 pm
Josh
Thanks for the offer but I am going to keep the original door.
Kevin
Thanks for the offer but I am going to keep the original door.
Kevin
Title: Vendo 56
Post by: Jim on January 16, 2005, 07:39:55 pm
Hey Kevin,
How about making a new door and keeping the old one as well...
Regarding the solid door you are having problems with sealing, I haven't worked on this type of door before so I'm not exactly sure how to solve the bowing problem...
How about making a new door and keeping the old one as well...
Regarding the solid door you are having problems with sealing, I haven't worked on this type of door before so I'm not exactly sure how to solve the bowing problem...
Title: Vendo 56
Post by: on January 16, 2005, 08:06:45 pm
My coin door area looked all black too. See picture.
After taking this photo, I just sprayed some orange citrus degreaser on it and it just wiped away.
After taking this photo, I just sprayed some orange citrus degreaser on it and it just wiped away.
Title: Vendo 56
Post by: Kevin C on January 17, 2005, 11:34:22 am
Jim
The coke bottle door. I just removed the back plastic cover & scraped out the bubbled out styrafoam. I am having a new metal cover made this week at work. I will post a picture when complete.
Kevin
The coke bottle door. I just removed the back plastic cover & scraped out the bubbled out styrafoam. I am having a new metal cover made this week at work. I will post a picture when complete.
Kevin
Title: Vendo 56
Post by: Kevin C on January 20, 2005, 10:08:05 am
Hello
The new wiring harness arrived & I have the new bottle door back section made. So the Vendo 56 will go online this weekend loaded with adult drinks. I will post some pictures of the repairs. After the party next weekend I will start with the stripping & repainting of this machine.
Kevin
The new wiring harness arrived & I have the new bottle door back section made. So the Vendo 56 will go online this weekend loaded with adult drinks. I will post some pictures of the repairs. After the party next weekend I will start with the stripping & repainting of this machine.
Kevin
Title: Vendo 56
Post by: Jim on January 20, 2005, 03:10:36 pm
Let us know how the party goes too! 
Title: Vendo 56
Post by: on January 20, 2005, 03:47:38 pm
Yeah, are we invited?
Title: Vendo 56
Post by: Kevin C on January 21, 2005, 07:55:08 am
Hello
The party is next weekend. Getting the garage ready this weekend.
Kevin
The party is next weekend. Getting the garage ready this weekend.
Kevin
Title: Vendo 56
Post by: Kevin C on January 25, 2005, 01:22:47 pm
Hello
I put the Vendo 56 into operation last night with good success. I let it run for 1 1/2 hours & all worked as planned. So now I will position it in the garage on Wednesday night & load with adult beverages on Thursday. All should be ready for the big party this weekend. I will post some pictures on Wednesday night of the repaired bottle door & the replacement evaporator condensation pan. So if all goes well this weekend I will be looking for my next project. If I dont sell the V56 I will try to strip it down & repaint.
Any ideas on repainting of the raised letters to get the professional look? Repainting of the red case & the white trim appear to be straight forward.
Kevin
I put the Vendo 56 into operation last night with good success. I let it run for 1 1/2 hours & all worked as planned. So now I will position it in the garage on Wednesday night & load with adult beverages on Thursday. All should be ready for the big party this weekend. I will post some pictures on Wednesday night of the repaired bottle door & the replacement evaporator condensation pan. So if all goes well this weekend I will be looking for my next project. If I dont sell the V56 I will try to strip it down & repaint.
Any ideas on repainting of the raised letters to get the professional look? Repainting of the red case & the white trim appear to be straight forward.
Kevin
Title: Vendo 56
Post by: Eric on January 25, 2005, 01:38:45 pm
Painting embossed letters....Ahhhh yes
Tons of tricks.... Taping them off, Painting one color
then paint over that then wet sand through
that back to the first color, Vinyl decals,
Using the reverse of the vinyl decals, Silk Screen,
Rolling them with an rubber ink roller (A fellow in
Springfield, MO does it this way and is awesome!)
Best bet is to find a sign painter and have them
letter it.
Probably the toughest part of the restoration! Seen
a lot of good hand lettering and bad....Nothing like the pressure of a nice paint job riding on the Lettering
Good Luck!
Eric
Tons of tricks.... Taping them off, Painting one color
then paint over that then wet sand through
that back to the first color, Vinyl decals,
Using the reverse of the vinyl decals, Silk Screen,
Rolling them with an rubber ink roller (A fellow in
Springfield, MO does it this way and is awesome!)
Best bet is to find a sign painter and have them
letter it.
Probably the toughest part of the restoration! Seen
a lot of good hand lettering and bad....Nothing like the pressure of a nice paint job riding on the Lettering
Good Luck!
Eric
Title: Vendo 56
Post by: Kilroy on January 25, 2005, 02:29:19 pm
Has anyone tried the new 'Paint Pens" available at most hobby shops?It is the size and thickness of a magic marker, but is filled with enamel paint instead of ink.
I had pretty good luck with it refinishing a fire alarm box, but too scared to try it on my v39
I had pretty good luck with it refinishing a fire alarm box, but too scared to try it on my v39
Title: Vendo 56
Post by: on January 25, 2005, 05:22:53 pm
HUmmm if your not actually done with the base ref ro your V 39 you could do a test run on say 2 letters and then if you hate it wipe it off( if its still wet) or sand off ( assuming your not finished with the base red coat. If you have a different( ratty/ need of paint work) machine try it on that first. I have thought It would be great if I could make masks for the various machines so you can just set it over the lettering and spray away. I suppose I could do it( and prob will for My lettering this spring) Bit I wouldnt be able to " produce all of the types" because I dont have 1 of every machine to make the template" Tho I wish I had them all LOL.
Title: Vendo 56
Post by: on January 29, 2005, 08:17:37 pm
Hey all,
I have 56 pepsi machine that was converted to cans. How does a guy go about getting a bottle conversin for a machine? Does anyone want to sell one? Or best of all just get rid of one Thanks all.
Patrick
I have 56 pepsi machine that was converted to cans. How does a guy go about getting a bottle conversin for a machine? Does anyone want to sell one? Or best of all just get rid of one
Thanks all.Patrick
Title: Vendo 56
Post by: loman4ec on January 29, 2005, 09:02:50 pm
I have one for sale. jdloman2000@yahoo.com send me an email.
Title: Vendo 56
Post by: Creighton on January 30, 2005, 02:00:49 am
Great Info, Thanks!
Anyone know how Vendo painted the embossed orginally? Had a very good peek see at mine and can't tell. My best HA guess is stencil but could be rolled.
If anybody wants to try the ink roller approach what you want ask for at any hobby store that sells art rubber stamps is a brayer. Manufacture name being Speed Ball (one of many). Basically a mini paint roller type of thing that is a black piece of cylindrical rubber on a metal handle. Never tried it but the recomened approach is to spread the paint on a piece of acrylic and go from there. Side biz is art rubber stamps is the only way I know this :-)
Bet old license plates would work for practice.
Creighton
Anyone know how Vendo painted the embossed orginally? Had a very good peek see at mine and can't tell. My best HA guess is stencil but could be rolled.
If anybody wants to try the ink roller approach what you want ask for at any hobby store that sells art rubber stamps is a brayer. Manufacture name being Speed Ball (one of many). Basically a mini paint roller type of thing that is a black piece of cylindrical rubber on a metal handle. Never tried it but the recomened approach is to spread the paint on a piece of acrylic and go from there. Side biz is art rubber stamps is the only way I know this :-)
Bet old license plates would work for practice.
Creighton
Title: Vendo 56
Post by: Kevin C on January 30, 2005, 06:58:51 pm
Hello
Here is the picture of the bottle door with new metal installed as the back plate.
Kevin
Here is the picture of the bottle door with new metal installed as the back plate.
Kevin
Title: Vendo 56
Post by: Kevin C on January 30, 2005, 07:00:56 pm
Hello
Here is the final repaired bottle door with new metal painted & the door installed on the V56.
These are post party pictures as you can see my oyster steaming gear on the floor of the garage.
Kevin
Here is the final repaired bottle door with new metal painted & the door installed on the V56.
These are post party pictures as you can see my oyster steaming gear on the floor of the garage.
Kevin
Title: Vendo 56
Post by: on January 30, 2005, 07:02:05 pm
Very very nice!
Great job.
Great job.
Title: Vendo 56
Post by: Kevin C on January 30, 2005, 07:03:55 pm
Hello
Here are two interesting pictures of the upper evaporator coil before & after I worked on them. I thought some of you would enjoy them.
Kevin
Here are two interesting pictures of the upper evaporator coil before & after I worked on them. I thought some of you would enjoy them.
Kevin
Title: Vendo 56
Post by: Kevin C on January 30, 2005, 07:04:52 pm
Hello
Here is the after picture.
Kevin
Here is the after picture.
Kevin
Title: Vendo 56
Post by: on January 30, 2005, 07:06:08 pm
WOW!!!!!
An AMAZING transformation. Really great work!
An AMAZING transformation. Really great work!
Title: Vendo 56
Post by: Kevin C on January 30, 2005, 07:08:48 pm
Hello
Here is the lower section of the refrigeration unit. The lower coil & the compressor compartment.
Before picture
Kevin
Here is the lower section of the refrigeration unit. The lower coil & the compressor compartment.
Before picture
Kevin
Title: Vendo 56
Post by: Kevin C on January 30, 2005, 07:10:34 pm
Hello
Here is the final. I did not have time to get a replacement condesation pan prior to the party so I once again used a brownie pan.
Final picture.
Kevin
Here is the final. I did not have time to get a replacement condesation pan prior to the party so I once again used a brownie pan.
Final picture.
Kevin
Title: Vendo 56
Post by: Kevin C on January 30, 2005, 07:20:25 pm
Hello
One last bit of information. Yesterday just prior to the party I was checking out my three machines by completing a test vend on each. Well my e-bay purchase coin changer for this machine went belly-up. So the Bud/Bud lite/Mic ultra machine had to be set for free vending.
I have now taken this machine out of operation & I guess I will have my first chance at a complete repaint. More to follow on the Vendo 56 in Kevin's garage.
The atttached picture shows all three of my current machines. I think I may have sold one last night. The third machine is a little hard to see but the Back 2 are Vendo 63's
One last bit of information. Yesterday just prior to the party I was checking out my three machines by completing a test vend on each. Well my e-bay purchase coin changer for this machine went belly-up. So the Bud/Bud lite/Mic ultra machine had to be set for free vending.
I have now taken this machine out of operation & I guess I will have my first chance at a complete repaint. More to follow on the Vendo 56 in Kevin's garage.
The atttached picture shows all three of my current machines. I think I may have sold one last night. The third machine is a little hard to see but the Back 2 are Vendo 63's
Title: Vendo 56
Post by: Kevin C on January 31, 2005, 08:13:26 pm
Hello
So I am getting ready to strip this machine apart & start the body work. I have two questions.
1. See the attached picture of the main door with the the clips that hold the door gasket in place. How do these clips work? & How do I remove the clips & door gasket? Where can I get a new replacment gasket?
2. How do I remove the big main door from the body of the machine? The hinges look sealed/capped? Any ideas?
Kevin
So I am getting ready to strip this machine apart & start the body work. I have two questions.
1. See the attached picture of the main door with the the clips that hold the door gasket in place. How do these clips work? & How do I remove the clips & door gasket? Where can I get a new replacment gasket?
2. How do I remove the big main door from the body of the machine? The hinges look sealed/capped? Any ideas?
Kevin
Title: Vendo 56
Post by: Kevin C on January 31, 2005, 08:15:22 pm
Hello
Here is a picture of the upper door hinge!
Kevin
Here is a picture of the upper door hinge!
Kevin
Title: Vendo 56
Post by: loman4ec on January 31, 2005, 08:57:31 pm
Kevin as far as the clips go they just pull out like the trim on old cars. Sometimes there are screws in the corners so take those out if they are present and gently use a screwdriver to get under the liner and pop it out. Once the first one is out you can just pop each one out by pulling gently on the liner.
The door is alot easier than it looks Just lift the door up and it comes right off. The caps are just for looks. The door side of the hinge is on top on both sides and it just rests on the bottom part. I was baffled the first time I restored a Vendo 56 on how to get the dooor off so I just took it to the painter with it on and told him to deal with it. WHen I asked him how he got it off he gave me an od look and told me how.
The door is alot easier than it looks Just lift the door up and it comes right off. The caps are just for looks. The door side of the hinge is on top on both sides and it just rests on the bottom part. I was baffled the first time I restored a Vendo 56 on how to get the dooor off so I just took it to the painter with it on and told him to deal with it. WHen I asked him how he got it off he gave me an od look and told me how.
Title: Vendo 56
Post by: Kevin C on January 31, 2005, 10:08:57 pm
Josh
Thanks. This weekend will be the test.
What about a replacement door gasket?
Kevin
Thanks. This weekend will be the test.
What about a replacement door gasket?
Kevin
Title: Vendo 56
Post by: on January 31, 2005, 10:11:22 pm
Hey Kevin C,
Just wanted to know what you did to get the upper Evaporator to look so good. Did you paint it. What did you do to the galvinized parts to make it look so good? What paint did you use? And next did you paint the compressor to get it to look so good. Man that was a good job. I want mine to look like that.
Thanks
Patrick
Just wanted to know what you did to get the upper Evaporator to look so good. Did you paint it. What did you do to the galvinized parts to make it look so good? What paint did you use? And next did you paint the compressor to get it to look so good. Man that was a good job. I want mine to look like that.
Thanks
Patrick
Title: Vendo 56
Post by: BryanH on February 01, 2005, 09:40:02 pm
Kevin - I have to second Patrick's question. What did you do to get the compartment looking do good. I'm in the process of cleaning up (not quite ready to say restore) my first machine (a VMC-56). It needs to be cleaned but not sure what to do next and would really like to do it myself... Share your tips.
Title: Vendo 56
Post by: johnieG on February 01, 2005, 10:28:51 pm
So Kevin, did you have a lower pan liner bent to fit the bottom of the inside cabinet floor? I see new metal in the one "after" picture. 
or is that a cookie sheet? ( either way , a good idea)
or is that a cookie sheet?
( either way , a good idea)Title: Vendo 56
Post by: johnieG on February 01, 2005, 10:36:36 pm
| Quote (Kevin C @ Jan. 31 2005,8:13) |
| Hello So I am getting ready to strip this machine apart & start the body work. I have two questions. 1. See the attached picture of the main door with the the clips that hold the door gasket in place. How do these clips work? & How do I remove the clips & door gasket? Where can I get a new replacment gasket? 2. How do I remove the big main door from the body of the machine? The hinges look sealed/capped? Any ideas? Kevin |
Just slide a wide bladed putty knife between the liner & the cabinet wall & the clips will pop right off, don't be surprised if the little "ears" on the clips break off, these get pretty rusty, but they are the same type as are used to hold the rubber fender liner on early chevys & can be got at an auto supplier shop (for Bump & Paint shops) as for the hinges, they remove from the top, the bottom is just a "plug"
use a pair of vise-grips on the bottom "Plug" & tap it down with a hammer, & once it's off , us a drift punch to drive the hinge-pin up & out.
Title: Vendo 56
Post by: loman4ec on February 01, 2005, 11:16:15 pm
John there is no pin on the 56's it is made to look like there is. All you have to do is lift up on the whole door and it just slides off.
Title: Vendo 56
Post by: Kevin C on February 02, 2005, 07:55:04 am
Hello
The replacement lower pan was made with galvinized metal. You may be able to make the cuts & bends with metal working hand tools but it would best if you could make the long folds/bends on a metal break. I own an AC company so I have access & the people working for me to make these little metal projects. With that being said I was going to make it myself with some borrowed tools but my service manager got wind of the need for a new pan & made it himself. I think he wanted to keep himself inline to pull a few long neck Bud's.
If you try this yourself with hand tools it will take awhile of testing & bending to get the fit & drainage.
Kevin
The replacement lower pan was made with galvinized metal. You may be able to make the cuts & bends with metal working hand tools but it would best if you could make the long folds/bends on a metal break. I own an AC company so I have access & the people working for me to make these little metal projects. With that being said I was going to make it myself with some borrowed tools but my service manager got wind of the need for a new pan & made it himself. I think he wanted to keep himself inline to pull a few long neck Bud's.
If you try this yourself with hand tools it will take awhile of testing & bending to get the fit & drainage.
Kevin
Title: Vendo 56
Post by: sodaworks on February 03, 2005, 12:12:19 am
As far as replacing the main door gasket you can order this from funtronic's or the soda jerk works. The gasket is not avail. vulcanized, so you will have to cut the gasket ends at a 45 degree angle and super glue the pieces together. I just did this a recently, turned out pretty nice.
Title: Vendo 56
Post by: Kevin C on February 04, 2005, 04:09:36 pm
Hello
Cleaning of the compartment.
remove the refrigeration parts. Spray the compartment with a good cleaner & allow it to soak, scrub with a course back side of a sponge & for the bad stains rub with steel wool. Continue to do this & spray the whole compartment out with the garden hose. Allow to dry & repeat a needed. If the lower pan is rusted through I fill the holes with a good coating of 'Great Stuff" foam, cut the extra foam off when it is dry & then add the new metal insert pan as explained earlier.
Kevin
Cleaning of the compartment.
remove the refrigeration parts. Spray the compartment with a good cleaner & allow it to soak, scrub with a course back side of a sponge & for the bad stains rub with steel wool. Continue to do this & spray the whole compartment out with the garden hose. Allow to dry & repeat a needed. If the lower pan is rusted through I fill the holes with a good coating of 'Great Stuff" foam, cut the extra foam off when it is dry & then add the new metal insert pan as explained earlier.
Kevin
Title: Vendo 56
Post by: Kevin C on February 04, 2005, 04:14:44 pm
Hey
This Vendo 56 is now for sale if any of you guys would like to make a deal. It is located in Charleston, SC. I will prepare it for shipping if you need. Let me know because I have another machine on the way to my garage & I need to move one of the current three machines out. I will have an operational coin changer installed if desired. I have not started on the painting.
Help a coke machine addict out of a jamb!
Kevin
This Vendo 56 is now for sale if any of you guys would like to make a deal. It is located in Charleston, SC. I will prepare it for shipping if you need. Let me know because I have another machine on the way to my garage & I need to move one of the current three machines out. I will have an operational coin changer installed if desired. I have not started on the painting.
Help a coke machine addict out of a jamb!
Kevin
Title: Vendo 56
Post by: Kevin C on February 07, 2005, 08:47:58 pm
Hello
Well the V-56 is now in the process of being taken apart for repainting. Anyone have any ideas how to get the white metal section out of the door frame. This goes around the bottle doors. I have tried it from the front & back with not luck. I need to get it out for the repainting & dont want to damage it. So any ideas?
The white metal I am talking about is to the left of the bottle rack.
Kevin
Well the V-56 is now in the process of being taken apart for repainting. Anyone have any ideas how to get the white metal section out of the door frame. This goes around the bottle doors. I have tried it from the front & back with not luck. I need to get it out for the repainting & dont want to damage it. So any ideas?
The white metal I am talking about is to the left of the bottle rack.
Kevin
Title: Vendo 56
Post by: Kevin C on February 07, 2005, 08:52:43 pm
Hello
The worst part so far is the insulation & the black tar used to seal the metal gaps. Here is a picture of the machine on the work table. You may notice the sandwich bags with all the screws tagged for the reversal of the process.
I was told that WD40 will work well to clean all the balck tar off the machine.
Kevin
The worst part so far is the insulation & the black tar used to seal the metal gaps. Here is a picture of the machine on the work table. You may notice the sandwich bags with all the screws tagged for the reversal of the process.
I was told that WD40 will work well to clean all the balck tar off the machine.
Kevin
Title: Vendo 56
Post by: Kevin C on February 07, 2005, 08:57:45 pm
Hello
Here is the front side of the main door showing the white metal I am trying to take out.
Ideas?
Kevin
Here is the front side of the main door showing the white metal I am trying to take out.
Ideas?
Kevin
Title: Vendo 56
Post by: on February 08, 2005, 10:59:40 am
| Quote (Kevin C @ Feb. 04 2005,3:14) |
| Hey, This Vendo 56 is now for sale if any of you guys would like to make a deal. It is located in Charleston, SC. I will prepare it for shipping if you need. Let me know because I have another machine on the way to my garage & I need to move one of the current three machines out. I will have an operational coin changer installed if desired. I have not started on the painting. Help a coke machine addict out of a jam! |
Kevin,
P.M. me if the 56 is still for sale.
Thanks,
Title: Vendo 56
Post by: Kevin C on February 08, 2005, 05:18:04 pm
Markito
I sent you a reply.
Kevin
I sent you a reply.
Kevin
Title: Vendo 56
Post by: Jim on February 08, 2005, 06:52:04 pm
Kevin,
I'm not familiar with the disassembly of this model, but you're saying the "white" panel cannot be removed without bending, cutting or just plain getting physical with it...? Is there a lip that keeps it from coming out towards the front of the machine...?
I'm not familiar with the disassembly of this model, but you're saying the "white" panel cannot be removed without bending, cutting or just plain getting physical with it...? Is there a lip that keeps it from coming out towards the front of the machine...?
Title: Vendo 56
Post by: Kevin C on February 09, 2005, 06:49:50 am
Jim
Yes there is a lip. I had a suggestion from Josh to cut the inside lip of the main door, fold it up & out of the way, remove my white metal section. Then when it is time reverse the process & fold the metal back down. This metal will be covered by the inside door liner. I brought my work drimel home last night to make the cut but did not have time to work.
Kevin
Yes there is a lip. I had a suggestion from Josh to cut the inside lip of the main door, fold it up & out of the way, remove my white metal section. Then when it is time reverse the process & fold the metal back down. This metal will be covered by the inside door liner. I brought my work drimel home last night to make the cut but did not have time to work.
Kevin
Title: Vendo 56
Post by: loman4ec on February 09, 2005, 09:01:44 am
Trust me it is the only way. I spent days on it last time. I got it out without cutting but I bent the white piece. It bent back easy so I thought I would do that when putting it back in well of course it cracked the new paint. When repainted I tried the cut well I didn't cut enough and it had big scratches along the top and bottom. So then on the third paint job it worked. trust me the lip bends back up and you will never know it was there. I do suggest cutting it from the bottom not the top as you could crack the paint on the top of the door from flexing the metal. The bottom doesn't show at all.
Title: Vendo 56
Post by: Kevin C on March 08, 2005, 08:41:50 pm
Hello
This machine has been sanded. So now I am searching for the paint. I have the local Delux paint store working on the red & white. I hope to have it primed & minor body work completed by the end of the month.
Kevin
This machine has been sanded. So now I am searching for the paint. I have the local Delux paint store working on the red & white. I hope to have it primed & minor body work completed by the end of the month.
Kevin
Title: Vendo 56
Post by: Kevin C on April 06, 2005, 06:58:14 pm
Hello
Here is the V56 sanded
Kevin
Here is the V56 sanded
Kevin
Title: Vendo 56
Post by: Kevin C on April 06, 2005, 06:59:20 pm
Hello
Trying again.
Kevin
Trying again.
Kevin
Title: Vendo 56
Post by: Kevin C on April 06, 2005, 07:00:40 pm
Hello
Here are the primed pictures.
Kevin
Here are the primed pictures.
Kevin
Title: Vendo 56
Post by: loman4ec on April 06, 2005, 09:40:26 pm
Looks good kevin!!!
Title: Vendo 56
Post by: on April 06, 2005, 10:55:33 pm
Kevin, looking really good!
The sanded photo looks exactly like my V56 in my garage, but I haven't taken it to the primed stage yet.
The sanded photo looks exactly like my V56 in my garage, but I haven't taken it to the primed stage yet.
Title: Vendo 56
Post by: Kevin C on April 07, 2005, 08:20:34 am
Hello
I bought a paint spray gun yesterday & I have researching the whole spraying painting process. Any ideas or recomendations on compressors?
Kevin
I bought a paint spray gun yesterday & I have researching the whole spraying painting process. Any ideas or recomendations on compressors?
Kevin
Title: Vendo 56
Post by: on April 07, 2005, 08:28:46 am
Kevin, how did you do the priming without a spray gun and air compressor?
Title: Vendo 56
Post by: Kevin C on April 07, 2005, 09:53:58 am
Primer gray spray can!
Kevin
Kevin
Title: Vendo 56
Post by: on April 07, 2005, 10:06:17 am
Wow, you did a really nice EVEN job.
Title: Vendo 56
Post by: loman4ec on April 07, 2005, 11:00:56 am
Spray bomb primer won't offer alot of rust protection. I really suggest that you spray the primer on. My Craftsman 30 gallon compressor is enough for primer but not top coat so I am going to use my brother-in-laws compressor. He has one of those huge uprights.
Title: Vendo 56
Post by: Kevin C on April 07, 2005, 11:25:28 am
Hello
What is the difference if you use a fancy spray gun with compressor or a spray can? A blanket statement saying spray can wont offer rust protection off base. The most important thing about rust protection is preperation & the type/quality of paint applied. How did I get an even finsih with a spray can? apply several light coats of paint just like you would with a spray gun. You still have to lightly sand the primer & then tack rag the entire surface to remove the dust prior to the final coats of paint. Have I ever done this type of painting before? No I just ask a bunch of questions of people who have to pick their brains for ideas & tips. Learnign something new like this type painting is entertainment-enjoyment for me. When I am done with the V-56 as a training project I will bite off the V110 I bought from Josh.
Kevin
What is the difference if you use a fancy spray gun with compressor or a spray can? A blanket statement saying spray can wont offer rust protection off base. The most important thing about rust protection is preperation & the type/quality of paint applied. How did I get an even finsih with a spray can? apply several light coats of paint just like you would with a spray gun. You still have to lightly sand the primer & then tack rag the entire surface to remove the dust prior to the final coats of paint. Have I ever done this type of painting before? No I just ask a bunch of questions of people who have to pick their brains for ideas & tips. Learnign something new like this type painting is entertainment-enjoyment for me. When I am done with the V-56 as a training project I will bite off the V110 I bought from Josh.
Kevin
Title: Vendo 56
Post by: loman4ec on April 07, 2005, 01:57:16 pm
The difference in spray can vs spray gun primer is the quality of primer. No matter what spray can you are using it is still going to be spray paint which isn't going to be a high quality. Now you can get cheep primer for automotive use that I wouldn't recommend either. But generally the higher quality paints are intended for a gun. Someone please correct me if I am wrong. I am new to the painting thing as well so I am in no way saying that I know it all.
Title: Vendo 56
Post by: MoonDawg on April 07, 2005, 02:53:22 pm
I wouldn't say one is better. Spray can may be ok for small surfaces.
Bulk primer can go on much thicker and is called "fill & sand". When you sand, it fills imperfections. Highly recomended
Bulk primer can go on much thicker and is called "fill & sand". When you sand, it fills imperfections. Highly recomended
Title: Vendo 56
Post by: Kevin C on April 07, 2005, 04:49:20 pm
Hello
I dont know but I will give an honest answer when I am done with the V56. Still learning as I go along. If you ask the same question over & over from people who have painted cars or bikes your can figure out the way things are suppose to go. I am just to get on to painting with a finished color red & white.
Kevin
I dont know but I will give an honest answer when I am done with the V56. Still learning as I go along. If you ask the same question over & over from people who have painted cars or bikes your can figure out the way things are suppose to go. I am just to get on to painting with a finished color red & white.
Kevin
Title: Vendo 56
Post by: Jim on April 07, 2005, 05:18:29 pm
Painting automobles takes a little more care in the appraoch as well as the products because cars are subjected to a lot more of natures elements. Soda machines, on the other hand, you can get away with a little more should you choose to.
For example, in automotive painting, many body men will apply an etching primer before doing body work, finish body work down to approx. 150-180 grit block sanding, then utilize a high build primer to aid in filling micro scratches from sanding. Filler prime again and block sand down to 220 or finer. Some body shops may switch to a top coat type primer and wet sand with 400 grit, seal and then apply top coats of paint. Finish paint will depend on single stage or base/clear.
Since these are soda machines, I personally got away from etching primer. One, it's a little expensive and when I did body work, I sanded some of it off anyway... After sand blasting, I did the body work, then primed with a filler primer and continued as above...
I pesonally recommend a 5 hp-60 gal as a minimum for painting as I explained in a previous post...
HVLP spray gun is also my recommendation.
Hopefully helpful...
For example, in automotive painting, many body men will apply an etching primer before doing body work, finish body work down to approx. 150-180 grit block sanding, then utilize a high build primer to aid in filling micro scratches from sanding. Filler prime again and block sand down to 220 or finer. Some body shops may switch to a top coat type primer and wet sand with 400 grit, seal and then apply top coats of paint. Finish paint will depend on single stage or base/clear.
Since these are soda machines, I personally got away from etching primer. One, it's a little expensive and when I did body work, I sanded some of it off anyway... After sand blasting, I did the body work, then primed with a filler primer and continued as above...
I pesonally recommend a 5 hp-60 gal as a minimum for painting as I explained in a previous post...
HVLP spray gun is also my recommendation.
Hopefully helpful...
Title: Vendo 56
Post by: firemun on April 07, 2005, 05:51:12 pm
I agree with Josh's and with Jim's posts. I spent a lot of time in a body shop growing up and have restored several cars over the years. No doubt you getter higher quality paints and primers using automotive products. They will hold up longer and are more durable.
One note of caution, If you decide to use automotive primers and paints, use a seperate gun for each. Several reasons why but the two most important:
1. The size of the fluid tip needs to be larger for primer than paint. This will allow a faster build of primer. And the tip if too large for paint can run and orange peel your paint.
2. Your paint gun needs to be abosolutly clean, using it for one and then the other can lead to build up and little "flecks" of dried primer making an appearance in your paint.
If anyone would care for them, I have the paint codes as well as the actual mixing formulas for Dupont Centari in the Coca Cola red, white, Dr Pepper Green and a couple Pepsi blue ones, the older darker and the light blue.
jeff
One note of caution, If you decide to use automotive primers and paints, use a seperate gun for each. Several reasons why but the two most important:
1. The size of the fluid tip needs to be larger for primer than paint. This will allow a faster build of primer. And the tip if too large for paint can run and orange peel your paint.
2. Your paint gun needs to be abosolutly clean, using it for one and then the other can lead to build up and little "flecks" of dried primer making an appearance in your paint.
If anyone would care for them, I have the paint codes as well as the actual mixing formulas for Dupont Centari in the Coca Cola red, white, Dr Pepper Green and a couple Pepsi blue ones, the older darker and the light blue.
jeff
Title: Vendo 56
Post by: Jim on April 07, 2005, 07:16:28 pm
EXCELLENT point Jeff!
My apologies for leaving this out!
This is very critical!
I purchased a relatively cheap paint gun with the correct tip size to accommodate primers and spent more on the finish gun.
My apologies for leaving this out!
This is very critical!
I purchased a relatively cheap paint gun with the correct tip size to accommodate primers and spent more on the finish gun.
Title: Vendo 56
Post by: BryanH on April 07, 2005, 10:43:22 pm
Kevin - I was able to do a pretty good job (first time) painting hammertone with a 33gal 6HP compressor and a HVLP gun. The compressor's SCFM rating was in excess of the gun's consumption rating. Haven't yet attacked the exterior shell which I know will be a tougher job... but I'm going to give it a try. See this thread for more compressor discussions.
Jeff -please post any and all paint codes... any chance you have pepsi red & white codes from early 60's.
Jeff -please post any and all paint codes... any chance you have pepsi red & white codes from early 60's.
Title: Vendo 56
Post by: Kevin C on June 08, 2005, 05:07:05 pm
Hello
I finally purchased my paint. I took the coin door off & went to the local SW Auto paint store. they were more than helpful. After checking their records of 3 pages of Coke Red they used the paint matching machine to get the color. It just so happened that the store manager wife collects coke stuff & I thought I may have sold the V63 to him. They gave me some good advice & plenty of extra's to help out with the project.
So I hope to paint the main body this weekend.
Kevin
I finally purchased my paint. I took the coin door off & went to the local SW Auto paint store. they were more than helpful. After checking their records of 3 pages of Coke Red they used the paint matching machine to get the color. It just so happened that the store manager wife collects coke stuff & I thought I may have sold the V63 to him. They gave me some good advice & plenty of extra's to help out with the project.
So I hope to paint the main body this weekend.
Kevin
Title: Vendo 56
Post by: BryanH on June 08, 2005, 10:04:41 pm
| Quote (firemun @ April 07 2005,3:51) |
| 1. The size of the fluid tip needs to be larger for primer than paint. This will allow a faster build of primer. And the tip if too large for paint can run and orange peel your paint. |
Jeff - what sizes do you recommend for each? Would also like to see the paint codes you have.
Title: Vendo 56
Post by: Kevin C on March 05, 2006, 08:58:28 pm
Hello
I have finally finished with the painting & transformation of my V-56 Thrifty-Vend. I am making it a light up machine with glass bottle door.
I want to warn each of you that the pictures make the machine look great. If you get up close you can see the issues that I could not deal with. Is the machine perfect No! I think I have learned a lession. No more painting for me.
Here are two pictures. The first is the orginal & the second is after painting & starting to put it back together.
Kevin
I have finally finished with the painting & transformation of my V-56 Thrifty-Vend. I am making it a light up machine with glass bottle door.
I want to warn each of you that the pictures make the machine look great. If you get up close you can see the issues that I could not deal with. Is the machine perfect No! I think I have learned a lession. No more painting for me.
Here are two pictures. The first is the orginal & the second is after painting & starting to put it back together.
Kevin
Title: Vendo 56
Post by: Kevin C on March 05, 2006, 09:00:55 pm
Hello
Of course I have messed up some small areas in the paint but I will touch that up at the end.
Kevin
Of course I have messed up some small areas in the paint but I will touch that up at the end.
Kevin
Title: Vendo 56
Post by: sodaworks on March 06, 2006, 12:30:04 pm
looking good