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Trouble-Shooting => Coin Mechanisms => Topic started by: bbrenneman on October 19, 2013, 04:57:18 pm



Title: Can anyone help?
Post by: bbrenneman on October 19, 2013, 04:57:18 pm
Hello there, I'm new to the boards and have a question, well a few:

First, does anyone know which coin mech this is? I purchased an Ideal 150 (I live in Canada) and cannot figure out which coin mech this is.  I have attached a couple of pics to help.

Second, can anyone tell if it's a nickel or dime mech?  If it's a dime mech, will it work with one dime or two nickels or just one dime?

Third,  other than the mech being filthy (I know it need a good cleaning), can anyone see any issues with it before I disassemble it? Things like missing parts or springs not in the right place, etc...  I want to make sure everything is in the right place before I take it apart for cleaning.

Thanks,

Boyd


Title: Re: Can anyone help?
Post by: SelVend 7 up on October 20, 2013, 05:53:00 am

Hello and welcome to the site.   There is a wealth of knowledge here.

I can't speak personally about your coin mech but you might wait before you disassemble.  I obtained the original service guide for my National Rejectors unit and the service guys were told to boil the mechs in water as opposed to taking them apart.

I was surprised, but it worked.

Chris


Title: Re: Can anyone help?
Post by: BeaYoung on October 20, 2013, 06:31:02 am
HI Boyd,

You may want to the check with "Collecture" on this site. Tom is the expert on coin mechs and has worked on a number of them for me. He offers complete restoration as well as repair.  B.


Title: Re: Can anyone help?
Post by: davethebirdman on October 20, 2013, 06:52:43 am

With regard to cleaning.. Put it in the dishwasher if your wife lets you...


Title: Re: Can anyone help?
Post by: bbrenneman on October 20, 2013, 10:03:26 am
Hello and welcome to the site.   There is a wealth of knowledge here.

I can't speak personally about your coin mech but you might wait before you disassemble.  I obtained the original service guide for my National Rejectors unit and the service guys were told to boil the mechs in water as opposed to taking them apart.

I was surprised, but it worked.

Chris

Thanks Chiris, will do.  I wanted to see if I could find anything on it before I take it apart.


Title: Re: Can anyone help?
Post by: bbrenneman on October 20, 2013, 10:04:32 am
HI Boyd,

You may want to the check with "Collecture" on this site. Tom is the expert on coin mechs and has worked on a number of them for me. He offers complete restoration as well as repair.  B.

Thanks Beayoung, I will send him an e-mail and see what he says.


Title: Re: Can anyone help?
Post by: bbrenneman on October 20, 2013, 10:06:35 am
With regard to cleaning.. Put it in the dishwasher if your wife lets you...

Thanks Davethebirdman, it shouldn't be a problem if it's the best way to go as I fix and maintain the dishwasher anyway - lol.


Title: Re: Can anyone help?
Post by: MoonDawg on October 20, 2013, 10:57:30 am
      Hey............. my last name is Boyd and I'm from Canada too.   Welcome.   :happydrinkers:

      You have 2 items in question, the coin mech and the slug rejector. Your rejector only carries dimes so nickles will be recognized as slugs.

      I understand why you want it cleaned, looks like it has been spray-lubed which is not good for a rejector as it will collect dirt too fast.

      Once you have it clean, set it on a level surface, drop in a dime and  "follow the coin".

      When it sticks, take out only the screws and part necessary to see what is blocking the coin path then re-install and follow the coin again.

      Your pictures will help you determine original adjustments too.     If all else fails ....................I send mine to Tom. :help:



Title: Re: Can anyone help?
Post by: bbrenneman on October 20, 2013, 11:21:24 am
      Hey............. my last name is Boyd and I'm from Canada too.   Welcome.   :happydrinkers:

      You have 2 items in question, the coin mech and the slug rejector. Your rejector only carries dimes so nickles will be recognized as slugs.

      I understand why you want it cleaned, looks like it has been spray-lubed which is not good for a rejector as it will collect dirt too fast.

      Once you have it clean, set it on a level surface, drop in a dime and  "follow the coin".

      When it sticks, take out only the screws and part necessary to see what is blocking the coin path then re-install and follow the coin again.

      Your pictures will help you determine original adjustments too.     If all else fails ....................I send mine to Tom. :help:

Thanks Moondawg,

Yeak it looks like something was sprayed all over it.  So would this be a 10 cent mech or a 20 cent? The reason I ask is it looks like there are two slots for coins to drop into.  The coin mech case doesn't have a 10cent/20cent plate on it so I'm not sure which one it is (this will also help  me determine which plate to get for where you drop the coins in).

I have sent a PM to Tom (collecture) and am waiting to hear back.  I'm in no rush.  If it becomes too difficult, I will probably send it to Tom to do his magic.

Thanks again,

Boyd




Title: Re: Can anyone help?
Post by: Jim on October 20, 2013, 11:24:38 am
Running it through the dishwasher does help; just remember, the decals may not always make the trip...


Title: Re: Can anyone help?
Post by: MoonDawg on October 20, 2013, 11:37:48 am
         The mech will accept 1 dime or 2 nickles but your rejector is the dime only style.  Best to order the 10 cent plate.


Title: Re: Can anyone help?
Post by: collecture on October 20, 2013, 11:53:22 am
Hi Boyd,
Welcome to SMC!
Contrary to other statements, you have a nickel/dime slug rejector and your mech can be set for 5c vend, 10c vend (dime only) or 15c vend.
Additionally, you should be able to set the mech to Free Vend by raising both the lock levers.
Never boiled any parts myself, but SelVend 7 up is correct that that was an instruction in the old manuals. Another instruction was to clean rejectors with Carbon Tetrachloride, which since has been proven hazardous to your health.


Title: Re: Can anyone help?
Post by: Ltransam on October 20, 2013, 07:38:56 pm




YEP!!!!  What Tom says  :tounge: :smile:


Title: Re: Can anyone help?
Post by: bbrenneman on October 21, 2013, 09:25:31 pm
Hi Boyd,
Welcome to SMC!
Contrary to other statements, you have a nickel/dime slug rejector and your mech can be set for 5c vend, 10c vend (dime only) or 15c vend.
Additionally, you should be able to set the mech to Free Vend by raising both the lock levers.
Never boiled any parts myself, but SelVend 7 up is correct that that was an instruction in the old manuals. Another instruction was to clean rejectors with Carbon Tetrachloride, which since has been proven hazardous to your health.

Thanks Tom,

BTW did you get my PM?

Boyd


Title: Re: Can anyone help?
Post by: collecture on October 21, 2013, 09:35:07 pm
Thanks Tom,

BTW did you get my PM?

Boyd
Hi Boyd,
I did and thought I answered most of your question in my post. As far as completeness - I do not see anything missing, but not everything is pictured.


Title: Re: Can anyone help?
Post by: bbrenneman on October 21, 2013, 09:52:22 pm
Hi Boyd,
I did and thought I answered most of your question in my post. As far as completeness - I do not see anything missing, but not everything is pictured.


Ok cool thanks.  Any idea what brand the mech is? Someone mentioned that if I know which one it is I might still be able to find a service manual.  If not, no problem.

How much would you charge to clean it up for me?  I'd have to ship if to you.

Thanks again Tom.


Title: Re: Can anyone help?
Post by: Creighton on October 21, 2013, 10:25:14 pm
Just send it to Tom. Be sitting down when you open package you get back.
It will be better than new with all details covered.
Creighton