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Title: National Rejectors Odd Cent Housing (aka-"Penny Box") Project
Post by: BrianB on May 19, 2008, 12:43:44 pm
I picked this project up at the Novemeber 2006 Kane County Show. It was sitting on the ground looking lonely and a bit rusty. I ended up picking it up for $40.

A little history on the use of this particular box. This model, the 4400 Series, was orignally made to be used on the electrical version of the Vendo 83 using either a National Rejectors Electric Coin Mechanism or a Coinco 9400. It was designed to handle the price change of Coca-Cola from 5 cents to 6 cents and then from 6 cents to 7 cents.

After getting home, my first hurdle to jump on restoring this box was to replace/re-key the lock. Luckily, the box was unlocked when I got it so I had easy access to the backside of the door to remove the lock as on integral peice instead of drilling it out.

I took some measurements and called my friend, Roger, at Crow River Trading Company. After a 1/2 an hour phone conversation and a few emails containing pictures of the lock-in-question, I shipped off the keyless wonder to Roger so that he could work his always amazing magic. He found a key for me and within a week or so I had my lock with key back ready to install.

In the meantime, I had removed the coin mech/rejector from the box and shipped it off to Tom (Collecture) out in Arizona for some re-plating and restoration. I got an email from him letting me know that the mech that I had sent him could be configured to accept 1 cent or 2 cents. We talked it over and decided that it qould pretty cool to have a 2 Cent Box instead of the usual 1 Cent Box.

After deciding to convert the box to the not-so-common 2 Cent version, I was again facing a dilemna. Where do I get the proper decal from? Soda Jerk Works reproduces the 1 Cent version but doesn't have the 2 Cent version. I can't really blame them. There probably isn't much of a need or want for them! I thought about my options and then it hit me....Call Roger!! After talking it over with him and settling on a price, I sent him a copy of the 1 Cent decal that I already had and a photo of the cover of my original box for reference and he set off to make me a 2 Cent decal.

A month passed and I was getting curious and gave Roger call to see how thing were coming with the decal. He informed me that his plotter/printer that he used to make his decals had taken a major dump on him and that he was currently troubleshooting the problem and that he would ship the decal to me as soon as he had the printer woking again. He said it might take a while, I didn't have a problem with that seeing as how I had some other things to take care of in the meantime.

I called him a couple of weeks ago to see if he was able to get his printer working and he had great news! Yes!! he got his printer working! And he also had just got done throwing my package containing my new decal in the mail!!! He apologized for the time delay and told me that because I was so patient he was giving the decal to me for free!!! Not only did I get the new 2 cent decal and my original 1 cent decal back but he had also included another 1 cent decal absolutely free!!! Roger up at Crow River is awesome!  :biggrin:

In the time between sending and receiving my decal I had a chance to bead blast the box and paint it, send off and get back the chrome and reproduce the interior schematic for the box. I haven't put the schematic on it yet but everything else is done.

Big thanks to Roger and Tom!!!!!


Title: Re: National Rejectors Odd Cent Housing (aka-"Penny Box") Project
Post by: BrianB on May 19, 2008, 12:48:16 pm
Some more pictures.


Title: Re: National Rejectors Odd Cent Housing (aka-"Penny Box") Project
Post by: BrianB on May 19, 2008, 12:51:33 pm
The after pics!


Title: Re: National Rejectors Odd Cent Housing (aka-"Penny Box") Project
Post by: davethebirdman on May 19, 2008, 12:52:43 pm
Excellent Story Brian...

Has anyone got one of those penny boxes for sale... I'd love to put one up on my wall....

Dave


Title: Re: National Rejectors Odd Cent Housing (aka-"Penny Box") Project
Post by: Larry on May 19, 2008, 01:19:23 pm
Brian,

Nice job!!  I too just had some decals made from Roger for my one dual nut machine.  I took your advice, from an earlier conversation, and sent Roger the graphics that my friend Peter touched up for me.  They came out very nice.  One day I'll restore my machine, but I think I'm going to leave the old paint and just put on the new decals.  Still not sure about it, but the original paint just has a few nicks.  Anyway, back to your piece.  Are you going to wire it up to a machine or just display it?


Title: Re: National Rejectors Odd Cent Housing (aka-"Penny Box") Project
Post by: collecture on May 19, 2008, 05:30:31 pm
That turned out great Brian!
Roger did a nice job on the decal - glad I could help!


Title: Re: National Rejectors Odd Cent Housing (aka-"Penny Box") Project
Post by: Ginger Prince on May 19, 2008, 05:32:35 pm
great piece of kit

great resto job!

regards GP


Title: Re: National Rejectors Odd Cent Housing (aka-"Penny Box") Project
Post by: SIGNGUY on May 19, 2008, 06:12:21 pm
Looks nice,
Roger is a Great guy, I've purchased from him the past and will continue to as the need arrises. Is it a vinyl or water release decal?



Title: Re: National Rejectors Odd Cent Housing (aka-"Penny Box") Project
Post by: mznb1u on May 19, 2008, 07:42:32 pm
 :jawdrop: Holy Mackeral!!! You guys do good work!


Title: Re: National Rejectors Odd Cent Housing (aka-"Penny Box") Project
Post by: Eric on May 19, 2008, 09:51:57 pm
Great... another item to stick on my “NEED” list :glare:
 :laugh:SWEEETTTTT!!!!!!!! Man that looks good.... You just made these
little guys go up in value as everybody seeing that is gonna need one!
Great work!
I was just emailing Roger tonight I sent him some decals I rebuilt for
Leaf gum machines... Great guy!


Title: Re: National Rejectors Odd Cent Housing (aka-"Penny Box") Project
Post by: Creighton on May 19, 2008, 10:21:09 pm
Great job Brian and Tom. Good choice on going with 2 cent.
Creighton


Title: Re: National Rejectors Odd Cent Housing (aka-"Penny Box") Project
Post by: Jim on May 20, 2008, 06:44:04 am
Very nice job Brian ! ! !
It looks as if the chrome plater reshaped the coin return cup a little...?


Title: Re: National Rejectors Odd Cent Housing (aka-"Penny Box") Project
Post by: BrianB on May 20, 2008, 10:34:05 am
Thanks everybody!

It's a an adhesive backed decal. The one cent version that SJW sells is a water release.

Jim,

I didn't really pay attention to that possibility untill you mentioned it! Or maybe it was just the angle. Now I'm gonna be wondering about that!  :biggrin:

I'll more than likely just keep this as a "hang on the wall" item, seeing as how I don't have a Vendo 83 to attach it too.......... I know what all you guys are thinkin' and I don't know if I like it!!  :laugh: The 83 just doesn't do a whole lot for me. Maybe it would with this little guy on it....Hmmm....



Title: Re: National Rejectors Odd Cent Housing (aka-"Penny Box") Project
Post by: Jim on May 20, 2008, 11:08:44 am
I hope it's just the angle of the photo Brian...
If not, I would definitely mention this to your plater ! ! !


Title: Re: National Rejectors Odd Cent Housing (aka-"Penny Box") Project
Post by: cormy on May 23, 2008, 01:20:09 pm
I want one now!!!!!!!!! :laugh:


Title: Re: National Rejectors Odd Cent Housing (aka-"Penny Box") Project
Post by: MoonDawg on May 23, 2008, 01:38:57 pm
       Would anybody be interested in a coin changer?  Works.........$300


Title: Re: National Rejectors Odd Cent Housing (aka-"Penny Box") Project
Post by: davethebirdman on June 14, 2008, 11:56:46 am

Guys...

Just seen this on Ebay... I know its missing the coin return cup but looks pretty similar

What do you reckon???

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=380035733310&_trksid=p2759.l1259


Title: Re: National Rejectors Odd Cent Housing (aka-"Penny Box") Project
Post by: collecture on June 14, 2008, 12:08:09 pm
The coin return cup is probably on the side - not the same - most likely larger in size.
Price is right so far.


Title: Re: National Rejectors Odd Cent Housing (aka-"Penny Box") Project
Post by: davethebirdman on June 14, 2008, 01:32:00 pm

I think I might have a bid on it...

Dave


Title: Re: National Rejectors Odd Cent Housing (aka-"Penny Box") Project
Post by: collecture on June 14, 2008, 01:36:18 pm
I have gotten some nice original rejectors out of these old kiddie ride mechs as most were not left out in the elements. It is a nickel/dime rejector in it, which is a $75 value.


Title: Re: National Rejectors Odd Cent Housing (aka-"Penny Box") Project
Post by: davethebirdman on October 31, 2008, 04:08:51 am

Here's one on Ebay at the moment....

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=140278581244&fromMakeTrack=true&ssPageName=VIP:Watchlink:middle:us


Title: Re: National Rejectors Odd Cent Housing (aka-"Penny Box") Project
Post by: BrianB on October 31, 2008, 06:06:34 am
Thanks for the post Dave, It'll be interesting to see how much this one goes for.


Title: Re: National Rejectors Odd Cent Housing (aka-"Penny Box") Project
Post by: Matt on December 06, 2011, 11:40:52 pm
So I know this is an old thread. Anyway, one of these changers was on eBay and ended yesterday. Naturally, after seeing the item on eBay, I jumped over to the forums to run a search and found this thread.

Final price of auction 12/5/2011: $440 plus shipping. Item condition was used, no key... $440!!  :oh:  item: 150708839648