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Trouble-Shooting => Coin Mechanisms => Topic started by: seper8tor on June 09, 2010, 04:46:33 pm



Title: Help with post select milk machine...
Post by: seper8tor on June 09, 2010, 04:46:33 pm
Well I'm starting in on my milk machine and am having issues with getting it to vend.

What I have found so far:

1.  All coins fall straight through mech.  Previous owner thought it was set to vend at .15
2.  Payout motor runs and ejects nickels in the payout tube.
3.  Light does not come on or off with payout tube empty or full
4.  "Make another selection" lights work when interior weights depress empty switch
5.  Mech seems to be in good shape and is clean.  I checked coin path.
6.  Mech model is National Rejectors 08-56-007

My guess is mech is not getting power but I don't know why.  It looks like someone previous combined up some wiring under the female plug which the large 8 prong plug goes into from the mech.(see photos)

Does anyone have a schematic of the 8 prong plug?

Could I do the free vend modification to bypass the mech with my model?

Any help would be greatly appreciated!



Title: Re: Help with post select milk machine...
Post by: tkaz on June 09, 2010, 05:22:16 pm
Does the payout motor run all the time, or just when you move the red inventory switch over?


Title: Re: Help with post select milk machine...
Post by: seper8tor on June 09, 2010, 05:25:54 pm
Just when you push the lever over and the nickels pop out one by one till its empty but the use exact change light does not come on.


Title: Re: Help with post select milk machine...
Post by: loman4ec on June 09, 2010, 05:28:43 pm
Also if the machine is empty most machines will not accept money


Title: Re: Help with post select milk machine...
Post by: seper8tor on June 09, 2010, 05:33:22 pm
I did partially fill the machine using the example on the door instructions.  I filled two rows of milk in each channel and put the weights in the proper positions.  Is there some other switch that I don't know about higher in the machine?

Im guessing that the machine wont vend when the weights rest on the switches at the bottom of the channels.  This causes the "make another selection" light to come on in the front of the machine.


Title: Re: Help with post select milk machine...
Post by: tkaz on June 09, 2010, 05:41:46 pm
Here's a thread that shows some info on the wiring of the Jones plug

http://soda-machines.com/discussions/index.php/topic,9337.0.html


Title: Re: Help with post select milk machine...
Post by: seper8tor on June 12, 2010, 01:02:02 am
Glen aka Moondawg stopped by and got my milk machine going!

Turned out it was some sticking relays that were not letting my coin mech reset and therefore all coins were dropping straight through.

A little WD40 and all was working great!  The kids love the cold milk from the cool machine!

Glen also gave me some wiring tips and showed me how to set my VMC Dual 27a to take nickels.

Big thanks to Glen for the help and sharing his knowledge!


Title: Re: Help with post select milk machine...
Post by: collecture on June 12, 2010, 09:39:29 am
I guess Glen was picking up a Pepsi 110 also??
Glad he was able to get it going for you!


Title: Re: Help with post select milk machine...
Post by: milkmachineman on June 12, 2010, 10:44:32 am
Glen aka Moondawg stopped by and got my milk machine going!


That's awsome! Do you plan on further restoring it or using as is? The machine looks to be in great shape.


Title: Re: Help with post select milk machine...
Post by: seper8tor on June 13, 2010, 04:28:23 pm
For now my plan is to give it a good cleaning and replace some of the wiring that looks brittle and crumbling. 

I've got the billboard at MGM plastics in San Marcos CA and they are recreating the clear plexi.  After they are done I'll be taking my Milk Logo artwork to a sign maker to see if they can print it on translucent vinyl to be applied to the back of the plexi.

I still haven't decided if I'm going to have it repainted or leave it as is and just polish it up.  The machine is in very good condition for its age and use.  The chrome is pretty good and not pitted.

Once I get the billboard done I'll take some pictures.


Title: Re: Help with post select milk machine...
Post by: milkmachineman on June 14, 2010, 01:14:08 pm
  After they are done I'll be taking my Milk Logo artwork to a sign maker to see if they can print it on translucent vinyl to be applied to the back of the plexi.


My experience has been to simply cut out the area of the vinyl decal that I wanted transparent (in this case the rectangular display area). The translucent vinyl doesn't look as good as the crystal clear plexiglass.