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Title: Coin Mechanism for Ideal 55
Post by: ZMonet on January 07, 2007, 03:13:26 pm
I'm nearing the end of a Ideal 55 Pepsi restoration and the last piece of it is the coin mechanism.  I've spent some time trying to figure out how everything works and I see what mechanism allows the crank to turn, but I'm unsure how placing a dime in allows for this to happen.  Can anyone out there help?  Am I missing anything part wise?  Thanks in advance.


Title: Coin Mechanism for Ideal 55
Post by: collecture on January 07, 2007, 04:40:53 pm
Looking at your mech and the schematic I have for a similar ideal mech,
it appears complete to me.
I have drawn on one of your pics identifying a couple of parts
and their function.


Title: Coin Mechanism for Ideal 55
Post by: Jim on January 07, 2007, 05:09:00 pm
Perhaps this may help...


Title: Coin Mechanism for Ideal 55
Post by: ZMonet on January 07, 2007, 07:00:23 pm
Wow!  Thanks guys.  This is way more than I expected and helps greatly.  I've run a dime through now about 100 times and it worked on about 3 of those times (not a good pass/fail rate obviously).  The dime gets stuck in the first chamber (where you deposit the coin) and just sits there.  I tried rubbing some WD-40 on the channels, but that didn't work.  Is there anything you can suggest to make it pass through the channels.  I vaguely remember hearing that you should run the thing through the dish washer, but I'd want to verify that before making such an attempt.

Thanks again for some more Soda Machine 101.


Title: Coin Mechanism for Ideal 55
Post by: collecture on January 07, 2007, 08:10:30 pm
You should never use any kind of lubricant on a rejector.
The oil and dirt mix and become gummy.
The rejector should always be clean and dry.
Running through the dishwasher will help immensely.
Prop the scavenger plate open when you do.
Nothing will work as well as completely breaking it down though.


Title: Coin Mechanism for Ideal 55
Post by: aspbear1 on January 07, 2007, 09:15:55 pm
I have a 55 and an 85. They both work the same way with the dime allowing the cam to rotate.  Really a simple mech.  

Tom is right about the dishwasher is the best way to clean them everyone once in a while,  I learned that the hard way  WD 40 is hard to get out once applied.  Be sure and blow the mech out good when you get it out of the diswasher...


Title: Coin Mechanism for Ideal 55
Post by: ZMonet on January 07, 2007, 09:21:51 pm
Thanks Collecture.  Good to know about lubricant and coin mechanisms...makes sense now that I think about it.  Running the rejector through the dishwasher right now.


Title: Coin Mechanism for Ideal 55
Post by: bubba on January 07, 2007, 10:49:09 pm
Has anyone run the plastic rejectors through the dishwasher? Can they take the heat?


Title: Coin Mechanism for Ideal 55
Post by: collecture on January 07, 2007, 11:33:53 pm
According to the Coinco S75-9800 manual (available on the Coinco website),
most of the parts are made of Noryl.
They suggest cleaning the coin tubes, coin chutes, payout base and acceptor regularly with mild soad and water.
I would bet that it could withstand the heat, but you can always remove it before the heat cycle if you are worried.
Blow it out with compressed air and let it air dry.

I did a quick search and below is an exerpt from a random website:

QUOTE
Noryl has good high and low temperature performance with a range from -40 degrees F to 265 degrees F. Because of its stability under load, high impact and mechanical strength, low water absorption, excellent electrical properties, and food flammability ratings, Noryl set itself apart from other materials.


The petroleum based products warning is reiterated in the Coinco manual:

QUOTE
Outstanding ease of fabrication in machining, thermoforming, bonding, or ultrasonic sealing, makes it a favorite of plastic fabricators. However, because Noryl is attacked by petroleum products, coolants and cutting oils containing petroleum should not be used. Because of this limitation, Noryl should not be specified for parts which may come in contact with petroleum products during normal use.






Title: Coin Mechanism for Ideal 55
Post by: bubba on January 08, 2007, 07:02:22 am
Interesting info Tom... thanks :D  I have a keyboard or 2 for the dishwasher... guess I'll have to run a short cycle with some electronics and see what happens...