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« on: April 17, 2013, 07:14:27 pm »

Back in September of 2102 I started to have some cooling issues with my Cavalier 72 in which I started the following post:  http://soda-machines.com/discussions/index.php/topic,15863.0.html .   The general thought then was I had a leak (which I still could).  So, I had a fridge guy take a look at it, not a vintage guy, but someone who was certified in Freon and recommended.  Anyway, he can by and took a look at the machine and really did not want to tap into the line to check the coolant unless he really had too.  So, he checked the wiring which was not original, but very old and it looked like there were several bad connections.  In fact at one point one of the cords sparked.  From this he thought I should at least replace the wiring and see what happens.  I did this and the machine started running like it was brand new and has for about 5 months............until today!!!   Today when I went to get a drink out of it I noticed it was cool, but not cold.  The issue before was it would always blow hot air, but this time it is just not as cold as it should be.  Any thoughts on what this could be?  Just to be clear the only thing I have swapped out so far is the wiring and replaced the inside tub liner with a fill in from our friends at funtronics so I think it is sealed pretty well.   When I did replace the wiring I actually had to turn the thermostat down as it was getting too cold, I guess I could try and turn it back up as it is getting warming out and the machine is in my garage.  As always any thoughts on what this could be would be appreciated.
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« Reply #1 on: April 17, 2013, 08:22:42 pm »

Is the machine constantly running but not getting cold? Or is it cycling on and off normally?
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« Reply #2 on: April 17, 2013, 08:32:32 pm »

kbareit,

I believe it is cycling, but I will need to confirm this as I just noticed it this afternoon and did not have the time to monitor it.  I do know that this morning it was cycling the soda's were ice cold. 
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« Reply #3 on: April 17, 2013, 09:10:39 pm »

I live in Phoenix and have a machine in my garage running 24/7 - they are always ice cold, so can't see that being your issue.
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« Reply #4 on: April 17, 2013, 09:27:47 pm »

kbareit,

Actually in thinking back when I went to get the drink this afternoon when it was just cool the compressor was not running.   I will check this again though and see if the compressor turns on and then off at some point. 

Collecture,

Good point.
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« Reply #5 on: April 18, 2013, 04:37:27 pm »

It sounds like the thermostat might be going bad. If it's cold at one time and warmer at another but being it does get cold partially rules out a low charge. Be sure that the condenser and evaporator fans are running and that the coils are clean.
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« Reply #6 on: April 21, 2013, 08:02:40 pm »

So I went ahead and did some testing today.  I cleaned the condenser coils (they did not look bad, but cleaned them anyway) and turned on the machine.  The evaporator and condenser fans are both working perfectly, but after running just about 1 hour the compressor never kicked on (but did get pretty hot).  I tried to adjust the temperature from coldest to warmest, but still nothing.   So, as before just cool, but not cold air.  Could this possibly be a problem with the thermostat as it is original or could it be something worse?  As always thanks in advance for any thoughts about this.
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« Reply #7 on: April 21, 2013, 09:06:09 pm »

If you are saying your condenser fan is running and your compressor is not . You do have a problem. They should run at the same time.
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« Reply #8 on: April 21, 2013, 09:25:18 pm »

Sorry, I was not clear.  Both the evaporator and condenser fan are running just fine, I just don't hear the compressor kick on. 
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« Reply #9 on: April 22, 2013, 09:26:10 am »

If your compressor is getting hot to the touch, then it is running.
The evap fan runs 24/7 and the condenser fan should run in synch with the compressor as controlled by the T-stat.
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