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« Reply #30 on: April 14, 2007, 06:47:22 pm »

If my memory serves me on these coolers, they are threaded in and the nut on the backside is spot welded to the cabinet.
Gently tap on the end of a proper fitting screw driver while keeping pressure in a counter-clockwise rotation in the hopes to loosen the screw...
Once you get one out the other should be easier since you can now rotate the bottle opener to loosen the screw.
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« Reply #31 on: April 15, 2007, 06:45:24 am »

Jim, Unfortunately there is no place for a screw driver head to be inserted into the bolt as it looks almost like a carriage bolt.  I've tried spraying with a penetrating spray and then using pliers, but I can't get it to budge.  I will ultimately need to remove them because I need to put a sign over the front of the machine, the question is whether I cut the heads off and then drill out or otherwise.
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« Reply #32 on: April 15, 2007, 09:28:41 am »

My bad... I didn't read your message thoroughly...

These studs are spot welded in place and can only be removed by cutting then grinding flat for your senario or intentions. Is this necessary because the sign is too big...
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« Reply #33 on: April 15, 2007, 10:25:21 am »


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Is this necessary because the sign is too big...

I'm going to try and get a replica of this sign (the one pictured below) made up for me and since it covers the entire face, I'll need to get rid of those bolts.  I'm really hoping I can  put the sign on the front without taking a hammer to the embossing to knock it in.  Anyone think I stand a chance?  I cringe at the thought of taking a hammer to any machine.  Also, does anyone know if the color of the cooler would have been kept red (for Coke) or would Pepsi have painted it blue?  It is tough to tell from a B&W picture, but it looks like it might have been kept red.  Thoughts?  Thanks again for everyone's help.

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« Reply #34 on: April 15, 2007, 11:29:42 am »

It's obviously a dark color and I've never seen Pepsi machines any color other than blue.  If you're getting the sign repro'd ten you shouldn't  have any problem preserving the embossing.  Just make sure the outside roll on the sign is deeper than the raised embossing.  As another suggestion... why not wait for a generic cooler.  Preserve the value of the embossed machine and not need to worry about the depth of the repro'd sign?
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« Reply #35 on: April 15, 2007, 01:07:27 pm »

My understanding is that the machine in the picture is a Westinghouse Coke cooler that Pepsi took and placed there own sign over.  I want to replicate the exact look and my thought is that Pepsi didn't bother painting the machine blue.  Also, correct me if I'm wrong, but would a generic cooler have "ICE COLD" written on the bottom and the unique ridging underneath?
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« Reply #36 on: April 15, 2007, 04:56:11 pm »

The only machine I could find that same double dot logo on was on
the General Electric Standard.   A blue "wave" above and below red
Pepsi letters. Could this help identify the blue from red in your pic?
        I would leave the cooler red, it's now obvious that wouldn't contradict
the picture you have.
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« Reply #37 on: April 15, 2007, 05:08:50 pm »

You're a genius MoonDawg!  Now why didn't I think to look at the Pepsi logo, which I actually have a tin sign of!  You are correct, the Pepsi lettering is red which seems to more closely match the color of the cooler than the rest of the logo, which is blue.  Thanks for everyone's help.
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Ideal 55 Slider - Coke (1st machine) - gift for father
Ideal 55 Pepsi (single dot) - almost finished restoring
Ideal 55 7 Up - need to pick up
Ideal 55 Generic - at my parent's
Vendo 110 - currently restoring
Vendo H63C - cleaned up and operational
Westinghouse Cooler - Collecture MADE ME buy
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