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Author Topic: Cornelius Diplomat Pre Mix Fountain  (Read 17121 times)
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« on: January 09, 2010, 07:46:46 am »

I just picked up an as far as I know working model of this.  I would like to clean it up a bit, replace the lines, faucets, stuff like that.  I can not find a manual anywhere for this.  I got a Cornelius Spirit manual, which looks fairly similar to the Diplomat, so I am going to use this if needed.  Is there anywhere I can get a copy of the manual for the diplomat?   Also, I assume there are no step by step instructions for tear down and reassembly, so I might be coming back here to get pointers.
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« Reply #1 on: January 11, 2010, 09:50:35 pm »

while you're at it, make sure to dissassemble and clean the valves or taps completely.... you won't believe the mold that you'll find, especially if it's been sitting for a while. The taps are removed by turning the rings on the inside of the water bath box. This can be done by carefully tapping a screwdriver placed in the groves on the ring with a hammer....spin the ring off, pull the valve assembly towards you, and turn to access the brass screw to remove the inlet collar. (If they are not too frozen the collar and inner plunger should spin without this step, but it's unlikely) Take the tap completely apart and clean... here's some shots of mine, AFTER the valve assembly had sat in CLR for 2 hours... notice the mold still on the plunger...

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« Reply #2 on: January 11, 2010, 09:52:35 pm »

while the valves are out, this is a good chance to clean the rest of the unit.... notice the front of the machine after the valve assembly and trim plate has been removed...
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« Reply #3 on: January 11, 2010, 09:53:29 pm »

...and the inside of the cooler.... with the plastic basket for the valves removed...
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« Reply #4 on: January 12, 2010, 12:57:56 pm »

while you're at it, make sure to dissassemble and clean the valves or taps completely.... you won't believe the mold that you'll find, especially if it's been sitting for a while. The taps are removed by turning the rings on the inside of the water bath box. This can be done by carefully tapping a screwdriver placed in the groves on the ring with a hammer....spin the ring off, pull the valve assembly towards you, and turn to access the brass screw to remove the inlet collar. (If they are not too frozen the collar and inner plunger should spin without this step, but it's unlikely) Take the tap completely apart and clean... here's some shots of mine, AFTER the valve assembly had sat in CLR for 2 hours... notice the mold still on the plunger...

Chris

Cleaning small parts like this are prime candidates for my Ultrasonic cleaner...as it will reach inside the orifices of the plungers,valve bodies, etc. & really get at the minuet crud.   smile
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« Reply #5 on: January 12, 2010, 11:55:10 pm »

now that would be the cats rear end.... if you don't have access to an ultrasonic cleaner, 24 hours soaking in a disinfectant will do... these can be found at you local wine kit supplier...

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« Reply #6 on: January 13, 2010, 07:54:04 pm »

Thanks for the advice.  I have pulled just the taps off when I first got it, and they were so dirty that I decided to order new ones.  Glad I did.  Pulled the whole assembly apart yesterday, and there was so much crud in the inside part that it would have taken months of soaking and cleaning.  The new taps are "reconditioned", but it looks like they are still going to need a clean before the first operation.  Found a guy in Canada that is going to send me out new inner lines, the smaller ones. I am cleaning the water bath right now, that is pretty dirty, probably take a week just to get that somewhat clean.
By the looks of the machine I got, the guy just got tired of using it and unplugged it.  I needs a lot of polishing, hopefully one day it will look half as good as the one pictured.
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« Reply #7 on: January 13, 2010, 10:07:36 pm »

where are you getting parts from?

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« Reply #8 on: January 14, 2010, 07:30:33 am »

Faucets came from Kegkits.com.  They are not 100% the same, but should work (I hope).  The difference is the screw at the very end of the tap, just above the outflow, is not on these taps, they have a spring loaded "button".  I haven't pulled one apart yet, but going by this, they look a little more difficult to fully disassemble.
The hose is coming from Nexgen hoses, up in Canada.  The guy I was talking to is being nice enough to send me the hoses free, but they don't carry the connectors, so I will have to find those.
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« Reply #9 on: January 14, 2010, 07:34:38 am »

cdc1960, I got a question for you.  I pulled out the cooling tubes last night to get the crud off of them, and noticed the rod inside the tubes, the one with the black rubber cap, is corroded and starting to pit.  The guy that used this before must have had hard water, everywhere there was buildup on it, there is pitting.  Will this affect the cooling, and if so, can they be replaced, and from where.  Thanks for the info, and I'm sure I will be looking for more help as I go along.
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