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davethebirdman
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« on: March 03, 2008, 07:34:37 am » |
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Hi Guys
My jacobs is coming on great guns... Have been playing around with the vending side.
Have managed to get the machine to vend the plastic bottles of pepsi ok...
The coin mech was working fine. It accepts all coins and gives the correct change.
I have just noticed a hum coming from the mech. Its not loud but it is a little irrating. It only occurs when the machine has product in it.... Ie the switch that the bottle rests against is closed. When all the product has dispensed the hum stops. Also noticed some blackening to the case..
Any ideas....?
Trying to get some pictures...
Dave
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« Last Edit: March 03, 2008, 07:56:49 am by davethebirdman »
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collecture
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« Reply #1 on: March 03, 2008, 07:49:03 am » |
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Off the top of my head, I would say it is one of the CREMs Why would you run the machine empty anyway?  Just keep it full and it won't make a sound. |
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Cav 27, 33, CS-55E-2, 72
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Vendo Junior (rest.), 23 Deluxe, 39D, 44, 56RT, 80SS, 81A (orig), 81D, 6 C.V.
VMC 27, 27A, 81D DP, 110 DP
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davethebirdman
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« Reply #2 on: March 03, 2008, 07:52:46 am » |
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Right...
Managed to get the camera to work... Have removed the slug rejector and taken picture of the inards.
That brown long thingy is very hot and there is evidence of black smoke on the metal and a couple of the wires look like they have been scorched...
Help....!
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davethebirdman
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« Reply #3 on: March 03, 2008, 07:54:36 am » |
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Hi Tom
Sorry its the other way around.... Makes the hum when the machine has product in it and then goes quiet after the product has all been dispensed.... Have added a couple of pictures in above post...
Cheers
Dave
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loman4ec
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« Reply #4 on: March 03, 2008, 08:15:40 am » |
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Yep its a CREM. Thats the little electromagnets under the slug rejector. Basically all that they do is stop the coin mech from accepting coins when it is empty or turned off. I had a mech like that once. It worked great but made a lot of noise. I just removed the fingers from it and it silenced it. Since it is not on a vending route your are not worried about taking anyones money so who cares if it is there or not. Just my two cents.
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loman4ec
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« Reply #5 on: March 03, 2008, 08:17:07 am » |
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By the way lets see some more pics of this Jacobs 50!!!
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« Reply #6 on: March 03, 2008, 08:26:02 am » |
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Sounds like it is one of the CREMs (see pic)
I agree with Josh - just remove the armatures.
You can always re-install them if you go to sell it.
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Cav 27, 33, CS-55E-2, 72
S-48 DP
Ideal CC 35, Barq's 55
1930s DP Counter Cooler
Vendo Coin Changers (ea. style - orig w/ stand)
Vendo Junior (rest.), 23 Deluxe, 39D, 44, 56RT, 80SS, 81A (orig), 81D, 6 C.V.
VMC 27, 27A, 81D DP, 110 DP
Westy WC-42-T, WC-44SK, WD-5(2), WB60
Victor C-14
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davethebirdman
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« Reply #7 on: March 03, 2008, 08:32:24 am » |
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Hi Josh
Thanks for the adivce...
How about the backening?? And the heat from the brown sausage thingy... Is that normal??
Plse excuse my ignorance but the four other machines have all been manual cranking...
I'll post some pictures of the Jacobs as soon as I get the compressor back in... Should hopefully be this week.
Just when I think I have got there something else happens. Now the compressor fandoesn't work..
Will order one of them later when everyone in the US is up and about...
Dave
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loman4ec
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« Reply #8 on: March 03, 2008, 08:57:11 am » |
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My guess is that electronics get hot and that machine has 50+ years of use from it. I would say if it works its Ok. I have pulled several s75-9800's off and they are black behind it from smoke but they still work great.
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johnieG
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« Reply #9 on: March 03, 2008, 10:23:15 am » |
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That Brown Thing is the heater resistor, it isn't necessary for hobby machine, it was used back in the day to keep the coinmech warm for outdoors/winter use & help keep condensation out of the coinmech on humid days with cold nights, you can leave it, or you may cut off the wire leads & wire/nut insulate them & lay them asside. besides getting hot enough to burn your fingers. it's just consuming electricity for no good reason anymore. PS..... do this with the power off, as the resister is fed by line voltage..  |
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Spoon-feeding Newbies since 2001...  Yeah..220,221 whatever it takes. Remember, all it needs is a shot of Freon! The Vendo V-83 is the '59 Edsel of the coke machine world. ;p Spray painting does NOT restore a compressor 11 is louder than 10... "Hope" is good, but it's not an action plan. |
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davethebirdman
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« Reply #10 on: March 03, 2008, 10:43:26 am » |
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Cheers Everyone....
Saw the black heard the buzz and thought.... Fire..
I'm going to leave everything as it is for the time being. If the hum gets too bad I'll take up the suggestion of Josh & Tom. If I start smelling smoke I'll remove the heat resistor...
Thanks again for such a swift response..
Dave
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