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« Reply #1 on: April 03, 2007, 03:12:21 pm » |
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I'd say $450 and a few dent's plus a refrigeration deck that needs to be re-worked isn't a bad deal. If you send your deck off for a complete overhaul, you're looking at around $450.
But, the 110 is rapidly becoming a very popular machine. The 44 is kinda flat right now, 56's and 81's are generally overpriced. 83's and 110's are the hot runners or soon to be. A big name restorer that I know has a bunch of 110's and was/is using them as parts machines is now kicking himself for not seeing the writing on the wall.
All in all, $450 isn't bad. I would see if the person would budge. Use the bad refrigeration deck as the sticking point.
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« Reply #2 on: April 03, 2007, 03:13:50 pm » |
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Anymore that model is getting more desirable... not bad in size
and vends several brands like a 81...
That's not a bad price... was the price firm?
I think the mech, crank handle and coin door was worth that alone.
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« Reply #3 on: April 03, 2007, 03:15:45 pm » |
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the price was firm. Door was sagging also
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« Reply #4 on: April 03, 2007, 04:08:20 pm » |
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To big, to much work for the price.
Pass and do not look back.
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« Reply #5 on: April 03, 2007, 05:13:49 pm » |
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(SquareTopCollector @ Apr. 03 2007,1:15)
QUOTE Door was sagging also Oooow. Those door hinges are drilled into a WOOD
frame. Could become a major problem.
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« Reply #7 on: April 03, 2007, 05:22:06 pm » |
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(MoonDawg @ Apr. 03 2007,6:13)
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(SquareTopCollector @ Apr. 03 2007,1:15)
QUOTE Door was sagging also Oooow. Those door hinges are drilled into a WOOD frame. Could become a major problem. This is not a good candidate for a first restoration.
It turned out to be a good thing.
I rather spend the extra money and get a machine I really want and that has been restored the right way. I also rather collect machines shorter than 55", thats just my preference
If the owner still has it in a few months I will offer 200. And just put it in storage. |
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« Reply #8 on: April 04, 2007, 08:16:49 am » |
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Is this a large door 110 or a small door? The large door alone goes for $100, the coin entry bezel for $125, the crank handle for $80, the backing plate for $30, the coin mech with slug rejector around $350, if it has all of the original bottle shelves, you are looking at another $100 in resale value............I'd take it for $400!  '>
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« Reply #9 on: April 04, 2007, 08:41:11 am » |
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I've had a couple 110's and yes they are big and bulky. But since you made the trip down there I proabaly would have picked it up and stored it or parted it out and make back your money and maybe then some? But as I stated in another post... I buy way too much and have a quick trigger finger when I find stuff in person and seem like I always take it home.  '>
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« Reply #10 on: April 04, 2007, 10:20:22 am » |
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Well Steve, I'm not sure you are aware of this, but that
Cavalier machine you have is a very desireable model. It
will dispense cans as easily as bottles.
Removing that wood grain and painting would increase
it's desireability too.
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« Reply #11 on: April 07, 2007, 05:37:27 pm » |
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How do I go about removing the wood grain? I didnt like it at first but it grew on me. My neighbor threw this machine out. When I was loading it into my truck he looked at me like I was crazy. It worked fine and is currently full of beer ( bottles and cans), water ( bottles) , and diet coke ( cans). I plan to take it apart one day and give it a good cleaning so maybe I will have it painted also
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« Reply #12 on: April 07, 2007, 09:15:06 pm » |
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A heat gun or a hair dryer will loosen the vinyl and just pull it off. Then use some adhesive remover to take what adhesive it leaves behind.
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« Reply #13 on: April 07, 2007, 11:29:02 pm » |
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behind the wood grain is paint?
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« Reply #14 on: April 08, 2007, 12:28:52 am » |
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yep it is either white or black. Open your coin door what ever the color is on the back of the door it will be that color under the vinyl. It is not easy to get off. Just be patient. It is really brittle stuff. It will break a bunch of times. After looking at your machine again it is white under the vinyl.
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« Reply #15 on: April 08, 2007, 01:06:09 am » |
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ok I took off the wood grain. It came off easy. Now the machine looks more vintage. Tomorrow I am going to switch the door out with my other calavier machine to add some red to the white. What do you think?
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« Reply #16 on: April 08, 2007, 01:37:55 am » |
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I tried that once. It looked off. The one square red pannel on the from looked weird. that is just my opinion. It is easy to do so it is worth trying to see if you like it. You said you have a red door from another cavalier. What model is it? If it is a CSS 64 only the G model will fit. Just to save you some time.
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« Reply #17 on: April 08, 2007, 12:59:49 pm » |
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I just tried it and I liked the look however I didnt like having a white door on my black and red css-64. If I can find a red door forsale I will swap it out but for now the white will do. Thanks for the tip on the wood grain removal, my machine great. I will post a pic soon
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« Reply #18 on: April 08, 2007, 02:47:33 pm » |
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Now that the wood grain is removed, a little prep-work
and paint and it will look good. Also it's good practice for that
restoration that will be comming your way shortly.
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« Reply #20 on: April 08, 2007, 02:54:41 pm » |
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(MoonDawg @ Apr. 08 2007,3:47)
QUOTE Now that the wood grain is removed, a little prep-work
and paint and it will look good. Also it's good practice for that
restoration that will be comming your way shortly.
Glen, how do I go about painting the machine? I know spray paint is probably not the best thing to use. I am looking to buy an air compressor soon so I could get a paint gun and set up a paint booth in my garage. Also I want to paint the black trim on the front of the machine in chrome and may be replace the coca-cola lighted sign with something more vintage.
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« Reply #21 on: April 08, 2007, 07:00:01 pm » |
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I wouldn't paint the trim chrome. It will look cheep. I would remove it and replace the trim with plastic automotive trim. It is sold at funtronics or you can buy it at a local auto customizing shop. I honestly woulnt suggest painting yourself if you don't have the experience. ALOT of time goes into a paint job. the body work is the most time consuming. If you want to try it I suggest buying a book on automotive paining and body work. I have painted a few of my machines but I never really did a great job at it. I leave it to the professionals. take it to a local body shop and they will do all the work for you and it will cost much less than what you will have in tools.
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« Reply #22 on: April 08, 2007, 09:48:51 pm » |
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I've painted, using a spray can. I've long since gone to a gun, but the can worked out well. I would use Krylon, less running. The key
is several "light" coats. When you are finished painting, use a
"rough cut" compound followed by a "swirl remover" finished
by a good wax. Don't worry about the paint being perfect, you will
be able to buff it out...watch the corners.
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« Reply #24 on: April 10, 2007, 09:10:22 am » |
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As far as painting with a spray can goes, I sprayed my 44 with Krylon red and white, this was before I was really into soda machines (my second machine) and to this day I am surprised at how well it came out. I applied several layers to give it a glossy look. It was done in the driveway with no real equipment/booth. Spraying a square machine is much easier since you can paint each side of the machine having it horizontal to minimze runs (the corners are the hardest part on rounded machines).
One drawback with spray paint is the ease in which the paint will chip on the machine compared to a paint shop application. Also.. if you want clear coat its almost impossible to spray it on yourself out of a can.
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