bpoe1321
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« on: April 29, 2016, 08:39:54 am » |
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I have a fairly nice condition uss-8-64 located inside my business showroom. I bought it in 2011 and installed a complete new cooling system at that time. It has worked perfect since then. No issues. The temp dial has remained on about 4 all this time. about 5 days ago, I noticed the top few rows were not cold at all, very slight cool would be a generous description. The bottom few rows were nice and cold like always. The compressor is running the fans, inside and out, are turning fine. I found a little ice under the coils on the evaporator, but nothing major. I opened the door and unplugged, just to let thaw and make sure. The evaporator is blowing fine and cold enough that when I am sitting with my face in front of it, trying to figure this out, I can see my breath.
It's almost like the back wall is blocked and the air is not flowing up it to the top. But it is free of obstructions. And even then, it should cool the entire insides, I would think. I have checked the gaskets and the vend door. Nothing has changed, all seals seem good.
Help.
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Slapshot42
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« Reply #1 on: April 29, 2016, 11:57:54 am » |
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Is the fan behind the evaporator working?
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bpoe1321
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« Reply #2 on: April 29, 2016, 12:22:04 pm » |
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Yep all fans working. When I place my hand near it, I can feel the cold, not cool, but nice and cold air blowing pretty good. But it just doesn't seem to be forcing its way up the back of the machine to the upper shelves.
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Slapshot42
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« Reply #3 on: April 29, 2016, 12:53:44 pm » |
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Have you tried adjusting a thermostat to a lower setting? Do you have a thermometer to check how cold it's getting? Is the compressor cycling on and off? You could of multiple variables going on.
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« Reply #4 on: April 29, 2016, 01:38:59 pm » |
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I tried adjusting the temp dial from #4 to #3 ( a little cooler) It didn't change anything. Still nice and cold on the bottom few rows and warm up top. It's just plain weird. Everything is cycling as it should.
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« Reply #5 on: April 29, 2016, 07:50:59 pm » |
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Fan motors may be wearing out. Bunch of dirt on the blades not ideal. Another thing could be dust buildup in the cooling fins. Worn out door seal in the mix as well.
Hope you get it sorted. Photo's always help.
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« Reply #6 on: April 30, 2016, 10:09:57 am » |
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Thanks. Will post some pics asap. Fins are good. Fan motor wearing out sounds like a winner because I can place my hand at the back wall above the top shelve and hardly feel any air movement being pushed up to the top. But the fan is running and seems to be spinning at a pretty good rate, but is it full speed? That I dont know. My uss-12-96 at home blows air to the top very well and hard. not sure if that fan is a replaceable part or not. I will check.
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MoonDawg
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« Reply #7 on: April 30, 2016, 10:40:30 am » |
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Fan is replaceable but first try pouring a little oil down the shaft of the motor.
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« Reply #8 on: May 04, 2016, 12:51:12 pm » |
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I let it sit, unplugged over the weekend and plugged it back in Monday morning. It cooled great, top to bottom. Then yesterday afternoon it started to get less cold on the upper shelves again. There seems to be an abundance of water/moisture on the bottom of the radiator ( i know that may not be the right word) on the inside unit.  |
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MoonDawg
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« Reply #9 on: May 04, 2016, 03:37:01 pm » |
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It cooled great, top to bottom. Then yesterday afternoon it started to get less cold
You must have some moisture in the line. It flows along with the freon until it forms into a drop of water that freezes into ice and blocks the line. When it's shut off, the ice melts and the system cools again. |
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« Reply #10 on: May 04, 2016, 04:00:13 pm » |
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Is there an easy fix for an idiot as myself?
And why is it, that any and all appliance repair folks as well as any ac and hvac people almost hang up on you when you begin the story with " I have a vintage coke machine and....." Isn't the workings practically the same as a household fridge?
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MoonDawg
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« Reply #11 on: May 04, 2016, 04:27:14 pm » |
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Your system needs a freon "transfusion".
It will take you 10 minutes to remove it, then you can carry it in to a shop.
And yes they are all the same, old and new ..........except yours requires R-12.
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Glen
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bpoe1321
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« Reply #12 on: May 04, 2016, 04:54:04 pm » |
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The new kit I installed about 5 years ago is R-134. Is that any easier or about the same process?
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MoonDawg
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« Reply #13 on: May 04, 2016, 05:07:26 pm » |
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Easiest thing to do is buy a junky Cavalier that cools well, and steal the cooling unit.
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Glen
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« Reply #14 on: July 21, 2016, 09:27:15 pm » |
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Did you check to see if the evaporator coil was iced up before you unplugged it ? cause that would give you those symptoms ! if you have moisture in the system you will see frost on the last 6 inches of the cap tube. if its clogged within the first 6 inches its a desicant (aka crap). if moisture is the issue recover the charge and replace the drier evacuate with a vacuum pump, then recharge unit us r-12 if you can get it 134a (use 20% less 134 then the original 12 weight when you recharge it) is ok but 12 is the best. your local appliance guy should be able to help ya out. Also I do agree dirty fan blades do not move air properly and that will cause a coil to ice up, especially during times of high humidity.
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