Justin W
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« on: October 02, 2014, 06:14:05 pm » |
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I found this machine on CL and I cant find much info on it online? and they guy lost the key so will the mech work without any product in the machine? Any other way to see if it works without a key?
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Slapshot42
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« Reply #1 on: October 03, 2014, 02:48:35 pm » |
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Machine has to have product loaded to vend.
I have been told that the center column will bend the 6 cracker packs. The other columns you may have to shim...
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Justin W
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« Reply #2 on: October 03, 2014, 04:17:27 pm » |
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Anyone have a pic of one of these with product in it?
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« Reply #3 on: October 04, 2014, 11:35:40 pm » |
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Anyone have a pic of one of these with product in it?
I don't think a picture would help. Basically you have to put something in the slots that fit. If not you have to shim the extra space so it can vend property... |
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Justin W
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« Reply #4 on: October 05, 2014, 12:14:38 pm » |
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Dumb question..... How do I open it? The only thing for a key is just the storage cabinet. There is a hole on the side with what feels like a release but nothing budges. Im assuming this used to be where the key was and it turned and moved this release but I cant see how. Anyone have a pic or explanation of the inside so I can see how it is supposed to work?
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Justin W
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« Reply #5 on: October 05, 2014, 12:15:59 pm » |
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I can find a schematic or anything of the locking mechanism.
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Justin W
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« Reply #6 on: October 05, 2014, 12:28:36 pm » |
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« Reply #7 on: October 05, 2014, 06:36:46 pm » |
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Well a small LED flashlight and a dental mirror will be your new best friends. Should be able to locate the locking bar. Slide it up/down whatever it takes to free the door. May take some time Use PB Blaster to free pivot points.
Pictures of your vending mech. Will help as well. Best of luck.
Creighton
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« Reply #8 on: October 05, 2014, 06:50:53 pm » |
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I used a long flat head screw driver and had to work the locking bar ( inside) up and down while sliding the cover up and down. It took a while to figure out the locking bar since you can't actually see it. Once the glass cover removed the cover the coin mechanism should be free and on the right side. With the main glass cover removed where you see the coin bezel move it the right. http://soda-machines.com/discussions/index.php/topic,13334.0.html |
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Justin W
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« Reply #9 on: October 05, 2014, 08:52:34 pm » |
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Thanks guys! Got home from the kids soccer games and couldnt stand not being able to get inside this thing. As usual It just took a little more elbow grease than I was using at first. Since I couldnt see inside I was afraid of bending or breaking something. I can find virtually no information other than pictures of the outside of these machines anywhere. I did stumble across some original patent pics and info that helped me understand the locking bar mech a little more since I could see inside. The mechanism has a link that if it gets turned the wrong way and the machine get closed this way it makes the release on the side opposite of the key not work as well. Once I got it open the thing works like a charm. And you dont need product in it for the vending mech to work. It worked perfect empty. Did these machines also use the weights that sat on the top of the crackers and peanuts to push em down into the vending mech? I'm missing those so if someone has a picture like I'd appreciate seeing what the originals look like. In case anyone cares here are the links to the patents with diagrams filed by William F Shepherd in 1951 for the vending cabinet, vending mech and cabinet structure. They helped me understand the inside of the machine better while I was trying to get inside of it. http://www.google.com/patents/US2738049http://www.google.com/patents/US2757060http://www.google.com.bz/patents/US2738102Justin |
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« Reply #10 on: October 05, 2014, 09:31:51 pm » |
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Did you try getting it to vend when it was closed?
Also when it worked empty did you try adding product to see if it would vend?
Great to see it working...
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Justin W
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« Reply #11 on: October 05, 2014, 09:44:53 pm » |
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Yeah, when I was taking a break from trying to get it open I popped in some nickels and dimes and tested all the pulls. All worked. Once I got it opened it still worked. As far as does it vend a product I tried a few things here at the house but I couldnt really find anything on hand that fit the slots. I'll go buy some cookies, crackers and peanuts tomorrow that look like they will work and start testing. What do you put in yours? But after playing with the thing I don't see why it wont work. The little tray slides out and drops when you pull the knob. I did notice an adjustable spacer for each slot that I assumes was for you to set the correct thickness so that it only grabs one package at a time. The only issue I've had since getting the top off was my son put a quarter in it and the return coin slot is too small for quarters and I need to dig it out tomorrow  |
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« Reply #12 on: October 05, 2014, 09:50:15 pm » |
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I haven't got mine vending... but now I'm motivated after reading your post!
Thanks!
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« Reply #13 on: October 06, 2014, 08:25:45 am » |
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I have the junior version of this, but have not had a lot of time to look at it. I have read several threads on this in this discussion group and it seems difficult to stock these especially on the smaller slots as the crackers used to be square and would stack without an issue. When you get the crackers now they are rectangular and won't stack. There was one thread (can't find it now) in which someone built a guide for the smaller slots, but it would not work on my version. Either way, let us know what you find out and I love the links to the patents.
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Justin W
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« Reply #14 on: October 06, 2014, 09:37:19 am » |
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One funny side note about the patents, in the applications it says something to the effect of "the cabinet was designed so that even the mechanically inept workforce of today can service the machine."
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Creighton
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« Reply #15 on: October 07, 2014, 12:33:42 am » |
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>"the cabinet was designed so that even the mechanically inept workforce of today can service the machine."
Great statement there. That is still true 50 yrs. later. I'm living proof :-)
Hunting product that will vend is work. Now is good because it is Halloween. Wholesale supply shops are a good source.
Creighton
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