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« on: November 19, 2012, 04:55:46 pm » |
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I was just wondering if someone could help me and list some of the more popular models for each decade from the 1920's on, it would be a great help and save me a lot of time.
Tom
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« Reply #1 on: November 19, 2012, 05:57:38 pm » |
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« Reply #2 on: November 19, 2012, 06:23:11 pm » |
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If you are a student on a budget I may be able to send you a PDF copy. However the book is fantastic and is in mint condition and a great price!
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« Reply #3 on: November 20, 2012, 02:59:35 am » |
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No offense but it is your paper to write.
Long time members here taking their time to compile a list to save you time??
Not how it works.
Do some research and teach us old dogs new tricks. Then ask for input.
Creighton
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Tomahawk27
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« Reply #4 on: November 20, 2012, 03:13:01 pm » |
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Appreciate the offers Maine and SS but unfortunately, I am on a budget somewhat and as tempting as the PDF version is, I would feel a bit guilty essentially "mooching" off of you
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« Reply #5 on: November 20, 2012, 03:25:53 pm » |
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No offense but it is your paper to write.
Long time members here taking their time to compile a list to save you time??
Not how it works.
Do some research and teach us old dogs new tricks. Then ask for input.
Creighton
If I came across as pushy or unappreciative that's not what I intended. I'm very much familiar with the totem pole. All I was hoping for was someone with a lot of knowledge to maybe list 3 or 4 machines off the top of their head, which I would then research, not do any research for me. As I've already started doing some research, perhaps you could tell me a little about the Icy-O machine MoonDawg was selling a while back (I'll message him as well): http://soda-machines.com/discussions/index.php/topic,11508.20.htmlI know it had the center rack filled with ice, flanked by rows of bottles, had no coin mechanism and relied on the "honor system," etc. but maybe some things on the exterior? It fits in well with the Art Deco period but were they generally painted that color? Did they have the logos on the side? |
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« Reply #7 on: November 20, 2012, 08:56:17 pm » |
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I agree with tkaz. Those Billboard Magazines have great articles and the ads for the machines from back in the day. I'll take a truckload of those Popperette's at $149.50!  Also, I'll take a truckload of the used Wurly 1015's selling for $100 or less!  As far as popular coolers and machines, I think you should include the vast array of Westinghouse self serve coolers. These were all over the place and are still used today in some antiques malls and old general stores. The damn things are virtually indestructable except for rusty lids from time to time. While they were on the honor system, they were good vending displays where the customer could reach in and grab an ice-cold Coca Cola. I would have to think that the Westy's were the predominant "vending machine" in the 30's. Another interesting angle would be the fact that Vendo built machines primarily for Coca Cola while Vendorlator supplied Pepsi and other brands. One last interesting observation is the fact that you would never see non-Coca Cola products in a Coca Cola vending machine while you might see other brands in a Pepsi machine. That pretty much holds true to this day I believe. You also could explore the bottle/can vending machine versus the cup vendors and their different applications. Many angles that you can explore. I would be happy to help proof your paper as you get into it. I wish I had gotten into this hobby when I was in college. But back then, I was more fascinated with the brewing industry for some reason? I actually did two in-depth term papers (25 plus single-spaced pages typed on a typewriter) on the American brewing industry for my Economics classes and used that information to make a presentation about the brewing industry in one of my Spanish classes! Good luck!  Tim |
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« Reply #9 on: November 21, 2012, 01:04:42 am » |
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Ahh, I never thought of that. I've used Scholar a lot in the past but never thought to look for magazines from the time period. Those should definitely be helpful, I really appreciate it. Tom |
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« Reply #10 on: November 21, 2012, 01:12:34 am » |
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I agree with tkaz. Those Billboard Magazines have great articles and the ads for the machines from back in the day. I'll take a truckload of those Popperette's at $149.50! Also, I'll take a truckload of the used Wurly 1015's selling for $100 or less! As far as popular coolers and machines, I think you should include the vast array of Westinghouse self serve coolers. These were all over the place and are still used today in some antiques malls and old general stores. The damn things are virtually indestructable except for rusty lids from time to time. While they were on the honor system, they were good vending displays where the customer could reach in and grab an ice-cold Coca Cola. I would have to think that the Westy's were the predominant "vending machine" in the 30's. Another interesting angle would be the fact that Vendo built machines primarily for Coca Cola while Vendorlator supplied Pepsi and other brands. One last interesting observation is the fact that you would never see non-Coca Cola products in a Coca Cola vending machine while you might see other brands in a Pepsi machine. That pretty much holds true to this day I believe. You also could explore the bottle/can vending machine versus the cup vendors and their different applications. Many angles that you can explore. I would be happy to help proof your paper as you get into it. I wish I had gotten into this hobby when I was in college. But back then, I was more fascinated with the brewing industry for some reason? I actually did two in-depth term papers (25 plus single-spaced pages typed on a typewriter) on the American brewing industry for my Economics classes and used that information to make a presentation about the brewing industry in one of my Spanish classes! Good luck! Tim Haha, if only it were that easy now. Funny you mention the Westinghouse coolers for the 30's, I just wrote about their Junior Cooler for my 1930's piece. I hit on quite a few of your points as well. I've actually been in contact with someone from Vendo and she has been extremely helpful. She's sent me a few old pictures, explained why the transition took place from round to square to and other valuable information pieces. Very pleasant to talk to as well. If you wouldn't mind giving it a look, I'd really appreciate a guru looking over it. Long story but I need to do well in this class in particular so the added help is more than welcome. This paper is only 8-10 double spaced pages, I can't even imagine a 25 single spaced page paper... on a typewriter no less |
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« Reply #11 on: November 21, 2012, 01:37:31 am » |
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Thanks for the suggestions. The Icy-O already made the cut and I'm sure at least one of the other ones will be included in the paper as well. That hot dog grill is pretty unique to say the least, very cool |
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« Reply #12 on: November 21, 2012, 10:17:16 am » |
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What I know about the Icy-O countertop:
The exterior was not really brown, it was painted to look like a wood grain finish because coolers prior to this were actually wood, mostly wine barrels cut in half and filled with ice.
The biggest selling feature for the company was their product rotation feature. Prior ice coolers had 1 disadvantage, re-filling mid day would offer customers some warm bottles mixed with cold ones.
This countertop model had 2 doors and the ice was filled in the center only. As ice melted, the bottles became chilled in a few inches of water. The customers bought the cold drinks from the front window and the lack of ice cubes in the rows allowed the clerk to slide all bottles forward and refill the warm product from the rear.
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« Reply #13 on: November 21, 2012, 01:35:13 pm » |
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What I know about the Icy-O countertop:
The exterior was not really brown, it was painted to look like a wood grain finish because coolers prior to this were actually wood, mostly wine barrels cut in half and filled with ice.
The biggest selling feature for the company was their product rotation feature. Prior ice coolers had 1 disadvantage, re-filling mid day would offer customers some warm bottles mixed with cold ones.
This countertop model had 2 doors and the ice was filled in the center only. As ice melted, the bottles became chilled in a few inches of water. The customers bought the cold drinks from the front window and the lack of ice cubes in the rows allowed the clerk to slide all bottles forward and refill the warm product from the rear.
Thanks MoonDawg, all that information is great, I can use just about all of it. Tom |
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« Reply #14 on: November 21, 2012, 01:59:38 pm » |
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Next chapter....
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« Reply #15 on: November 21, 2012, 03:43:14 pm » |
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I like the next chapter moondawg
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« Reply #16 on: November 21, 2012, 04:07:57 pm » |
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The Cavalier 102 would be a good machine to discuss as there are stories that vary about the two sided machine. Some say it was so there could be a "Whites Only" side and a "Colored Only" side. I have also heard that this machine was designed to sit on the island at a gas station so it could vend to customers on either side of the pump. It would be interesting to see what your research would determine on this issue. I happen to know a retired Coca Cola executive who has a completely restored Cav 102 that was restored by their vending department and delivered to his personal residence. I would be happy to get you some pictures of that machine if you choose it for your paper. It would give me a reason to get over and see that machine finally! Tim |
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« Reply #17 on: November 21, 2012, 11:43:41 pm » |
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I would be happy to get you some pictures of that machine if you choose it for your paper. It would give me a reason to get over and see that machine finally! Tim Tim, I would love to see some picture of the 102. Thanks in Advance. Jared |
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« Reply #18 on: November 21, 2012, 11:57:08 pm » |
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And there I have my 50's machine, thanks Glen. The machine seems to have enough character to talk about on it's own, add in the whites/blacks issue, and this one should definitely gain some interest from my professor.
Tim, I've been adding a picture for each decade and since this one looks perfect, I would gladly include any pictures you throw my way.
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« Reply #19 on: November 22, 2012, 12:10:58 am » |
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Don't know if you have the late 60's covered but the first can machines with a punch are worthy of note. Need pics let me know.
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« Reply #20 on: November 22, 2012, 11:11:06 am » |
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add in the whites/blacks issue,
Caution: that term was considered improper in the 50's. They were urged to use the word "colored" |
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« Reply #21 on: November 22, 2012, 11:23:13 am » |
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I remember back in the early 70's when some people were still using the term "colored" while others were using the term "black". My older brother had a friend who used to say, "It is not nice to call people "colored", how would you like it if they called you "uncolored"? As a young kid, I got a chuckle out of that line but it also stuck with me and has made me mindful to be respectful when referring to any to any group of people. Tim |
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« Reply #22 on: November 22, 2012, 01:12:45 pm » |
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True, it can be a sticky issue sometimes. I may just go with what's on the machine and be careful with what I write so as not to offend anyone.
Tom
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