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« on: September 20, 2010, 10:18:51 pm » |
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I have a V-63 with a CoinCo mech that doesn't seem to be functioning. The model number on the slug rejector says it is a 903030, but does that mean the whole coin mechanism is a 903030? Or, does the electric component below it have a separate model number? I am attaching four pictures that I hope will help in your giving me some guidance.
I have already cleaned the slug rejector in hot soapy water, but have not done anything else except adjust the slides that determine the vend price. As I currently (not as shown in the pictures) have the slides adjusted the two black slides are in the up ("on") position and the two white slides are in the down ("off") position which should mean, I believe, the vend is set at 25 cents. I can jump the 1 - 3 pins of the Jones plug to kick the solenoid, so I believe my problem resides with the coin mechanism.
When I put coins into the machine, they seem to go to the correct locations (not as consistently as I would like, but most of the time). Quarters and dimes go to the coin box and the nickels go into the change tubes. When I plug the coin mechanism in, it seems to energize (the little fork-like assemblies behind the slug rejector move). I can also push the switch at the bottom of the coin mechanism that causes the change (nickels) to be placed into the coin return and have the nickels actually get moved to the return.
Unfortunately, when I run the money through the mechanism it does not energize the solenoid. Nothing really happens at all. I can gently push the little wire down to simulate a nickel moving past it and I have gotten the sense that it seemed to be "counting". On one attempt it actually seemed to make the solenoid in the machine do "something", but it didn't cause the bottle gates to release.
By the way, the message by the coin acceptor bezel always says "Correct Change Only" even when there are a few nickels in the change tube. Under what conditions will this message go away? Does the machine have to be stocked with bottles in order for the coin mechanism to function? Does the machine give a warning when there are no drinks to be vended?
I have read a large number of posts concerning coin mechanisms, but am not sure what to do next based on my reading of those posts. So, could someone point me in the right direction? I would love to be able to troubleshoot this thing and have it magically work. If that does not happen, would it be worthwhile to send the mechanism out to be fixed? If so, is JohnnieG still the CoinCo go to guy?
I have some pictures I can post... if I can get them to file sizes small enough.
All help is greatly appreciated!
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David
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« Reply #1 on: September 20, 2010, 10:28:06 pm » |
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Sometimes a machine has to have some bottles in it to vend. I know with my machine it will not vend if I have nothing in it. Also the nickel tubes usually have to be filled up at least half way I think to make the correct change light shut off. I'm thinking this might be your coin mech maybe? http://www.coinco.com/coin/faq/servicematerials/909826_1.pdf |
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« Reply #2 on: September 20, 2010, 10:43:20 pm » |
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Here are the pics... one at a time, I guess.
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« Reply #3 on: September 20, 2010, 10:43:51 pm » |
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Pic 2...
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« Reply #4 on: September 20, 2010, 10:44:20 pm » |
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Pic 3...
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« Reply #5 on: September 20, 2010, 10:45:05 pm » |
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... and the last one.
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« Reply #6 on: September 20, 2010, 10:47:43 pm » |
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Sometimes a machine has to have some bottles in it to vend. I know with my machine it will not vend if I have nothing in it. Also the nickel tubes usually have to be filled up at least half way I think to make the correct change light shut off. I'm thinking this might be your coin mech maybe? http://www.coinco.com/coin/faq/servicematerials/909826_1.pdfIt sure looks like that one, doesn't it? |
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« Reply #7 on: September 20, 2010, 10:57:23 pm » |
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Yep thats a coinco s75-9800A. You can tell the difference between the A and the B from the cover over the coin chute (A has the metal one and the B has plastic) and from the price switches. Both are great mechs. Also JohnnieG is the guy to go to for these mechs.
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« Reply #8 on: September 21, 2010, 09:42:37 am » |
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Actually it looks like your coinmech shown has a Coinco 9300 series inventory switch-plate (minus the dime switch), (the Coinco 9300 series is functionally identical to the 9800/A model, the price could be set from 5 to 75-cents but it could give change in both dimes + nickels.) But your circuit (logic) board seems to be from a 9800/A series as does the double-nickel change tubes..let me know if you'd like me to have a look at it...JohnieG
Could you post a picture of the bottom edge of your slug-rejector...I want to see if it's the correct one for this 'mech.
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« Last Edit: September 21, 2010, 09:51:10 am by johnieG »
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Spoon-feeding Newbies since 2001...  Yeah..220,221 whatever it takes. Remember, all it needs is a shot of Freon! The Vendo V-83 is the '59 Edsel of the coke machine world. ;p Spray painting does NOT restore a compressor 11 is louder than 10... "Hope" is good, but it's not an action plan. |
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« Reply #9 on: September 21, 2010, 11:02:02 am » |
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Thanks for the reply! I'll take a picture of the slug rejector tonight and post the pic.
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« Reply #10 on: September 21, 2010, 11:59:37 am » |
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JohnieG does great work on electric coin mechs. It is worth sending to him if he wants to do the work. I have never heard a bad thing about his work.
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« Reply #11 on: September 21, 2010, 10:25:43 pm » |
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Pic 5.
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« Reply #12 on: September 21, 2010, 10:26:25 pm » |
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Pic 6...
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« Reply #13 on: September 21, 2010, 10:26:57 pm » |
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Pic 7... a flipped view.
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« Reply #14 on: September 22, 2010, 09:15:45 am » |
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Yes, that is the correct slug-rejector for a 9800/A/B series, as it has the little "Y" shaped shuttle that directs the nickels alternately into the left & right side of the nickel path to be counted & feed down to the change tubes...
Next question, if you slide the little 5-cent inventory switch up, ( shown/located in the front lower right of the coinmech) does it activate/run the change motor?
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« Last Edit: September 22, 2010, 09:18:07 am by johnieG »
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Spoon-feeding Newbies since 2001... Yeah..220,221 whatever it takes. Remember, all it needs is a shot of Freon! The Vendo V-83 is the '59 Edsel of the coke machine world. ;p Spray painting does NOT restore a compressor 11 is louder than 10... "Hope" is good, but it's not an action plan. |
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« Reply #15 on: September 22, 2010, 11:35:45 am » |
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Next question, if you slide the little 5-cent inventory switch up, ( shown/located in the front lower right of the coinmech) does it activate/run the change motor?
Yes, when I slide the 5-cent inventory switch up the change motor does activate and run. |
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« Reply #16 on: September 22, 2010, 04:00:03 pm » |
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good, then the 12 volt regulator is working, now remove the slug-rejector & mount the 'mech into the machine. set the vending switch to 10-cents ( switch # 2 up & the rest down) the plug in the mech & machine & manually trigger the nickel switches wire twice ( like giving it two nickels) does it trigger the vending solenoid?
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Spoon-feeding Newbies since 2001... Yeah..220,221 whatever it takes. Remember, all it needs is a shot of Freon! The Vendo V-83 is the '59 Edsel of the coke machine world. ;p Spray painting does NOT restore a compressor 11 is louder than 10... "Hope" is good, but it's not an action plan. |
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« Reply #17 on: September 22, 2010, 07:39:30 pm » |
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I followed your instructions, but the solenoid does not trigger.
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« Reply #18 on: September 22, 2010, 08:11:05 pm » |
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then it sounds like a logic-board issue, you could remove the circuit board & have me take a look at it for you, or you can ship me the whole coinmech with the slug-rejector to go over...send me a PM (personal message) or drop me an email if you like to discuss it further..JohnieG
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Spoon-feeding Newbies since 2001... Yeah..220,221 whatever it takes. Remember, all it needs is a shot of Freon! The Vendo V-83 is the '59 Edsel of the coke machine world. ;p Spray painting does NOT restore a compressor 11 is louder than 10... "Hope" is good, but it's not an action plan. |
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« Reply #19 on: September 22, 2010, 08:36:05 pm » |
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I will second Josh's sentiments on that John does great work he has done a few for me and I've been happy with them .
myself I would send him the whole thing just to make sure everything is covered.
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« Reply #20 on: September 23, 2010, 12:06:34 am » |
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What everybody else said--johnieG is your guy! Like Mr. Belvedere, "He does good work!"  Tim |
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CoolCat
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« Reply #21 on: September 23, 2010, 10:37:21 am » |
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Thanks, guys. It looks like my coin mech will be taking a trip.
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