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« on: March 05, 2006, 09:21:32 am »
Well I spent a good amount of time cleaning the large coin mech that came with the vendo 56. Placed the slug rejector in hot soapy water, but I think their was to much soap since when dry it feels tacky. The dime stil travels thru. Should I place it back in hot water to remove left over soap or is there a spray I can use?? The coin mech it self does not crank all the way down. The dime does travel all the way down into its slot but when I crank down the handl the mech stops shortly before the finger located in the same slot reaches the dime. I can tell if this finger was to reach the dime, it would force the finger to rise thus unlocking the bottom crank, allowing it to travel its complete path. I tested this by lifting the finger manually. How the  '<img'> can I fix this?? Completly lost. Can any tell if something is, missing??  '<img'>

Pics will be posted soon via friend.

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« Reply #1 on: March 05, 2006, 10:08:02 am »
pics from friend '<img'>
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« Reply #2 on: March 05, 2006, 10:09:31 am »
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« Reply #3 on: March 05, 2006, 10:10:25 am »
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« Reply #4 on: March 05, 2006, 10:12:17 am »
Hello

First put down the skunky beer & move back! The danger will pass.

Just wait there are some members who know how to work these things.

Have a good day.

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« Reply #5 on: March 05, 2006, 11:20:07 am »
Did you remove the barrier plate or was it missing? Steve at Soda Jerk Works sells them if it is missing.
Check where the back side of the nickel finger goes down in the back. There is another lever (can't think of it's name of hand) of which the nickel finger must be on the left of (as you face the mech). You can access the lever from a hole in the back. Kind of hard to explain and I don't have time this morning - gotta run. If you haven't figured it out by later today, I'll try to post a pic and describe better.
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« Reply #6 on: March 05, 2006, 01:21:43 pm »
Yes I did remove the barrier plate. I did place the nickle finger behind another lever. But the mech still will not crank all the way down. Its like dime finger is not long enough to come in contact w/the dime inorder to lift the lever so that the bottom crank will become unlocked and freely move.  '<img'>
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« Reply #7 on: March 05, 2006, 01:40:57 pm »
Will it work on two nickels? What happens with coins in all the coin slots?
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« Reply #8 on: March 05, 2006, 01:56:57 pm »
OK -I just went and looked at my non-change giver mech.
On mine, the spring just to the right of the blue arrow in the picture is attached to the nickel finger plate that the arrow is pointing directly at. The left side of your spring looks right - it is the right side of your spring that should be attached to the nickel finger plate. What is the right side of your spring attached to now?
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« Reply #9 on: March 05, 2006, 02:11:42 pm »
Here is a picture of mine!
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« Reply #10 on: March 05, 2006, 02:33:06 pm »
Collecture, Thanks a million because of your help, vendo 56 coin Mech LIVES AGAIN!!! The coin mech works on nickles and nikles only. Once I place 2 nickles in the nicle slot and placed the coin mech on a leve surface, BAM Worked


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« Reply #11 on: March 05, 2006, 02:51:50 pm »
Victor,
 Just checking in, looks like your problems solved! '<img'>
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« Reply #12 on: March 05, 2006, 03:03:36 pm »
I think if you place the spring where I described and pictured earlier, then the mech would work on dimes and nickels because it should work on both denominations.
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« Reply #13 on: March 05, 2006, 03:27:43 pm »
Hello

Ok is time to open a new fresh beer. Take several long gulps, then take a deep breath & repeat until the feeling of doom has passed.

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« Reply #14 on: March 05, 2006, 05:16:24 pm »
I agree, a round of web based cold ones on me ':drinkers:'  ':drinkers:'  ':drinkers:'  ':drinkers:' .

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« Reply #15 on: March 05, 2006, 07:00:13 pm »
Is it accepting dimes as well? '<img'>
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« Reply #16 on: March 05, 2006, 09:10:27 pm »
NO, I just can not get it to accept dimes. Any ideas???
It works great w/nickles.  '<img'>
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« Reply #17 on: March 05, 2006, 09:45:17 pm »
Did you try moving the spring?
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« Reply #18 on: March 05, 2006, 10:48:18 pm »
I did move the spring, from the lower body of the coin mech to the bracket you spoke of. But it still will not vend on dimes. The lower crank stops before the arm comes in contact with the dime. I guess I just need bigger dimes.    '<img'>
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« Reply #19 on: March 05, 2006, 11:20:48 pm »
Fresco,
Will it crank if you lift up on the dime finger slightly?
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VMC 27, 27A, 81D DP, 110 DP
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« Reply #20 on: March 06, 2006, 12:19:51 am »
Yes, if I slightly move up the dime finger it will vend.Or in other words crank down all the way.
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« Reply #21 on: March 06, 2006, 11:10:12 am »
Any more ideas guys, all the help has been great. I am almost there, just need to resolve the dime issue.   '<img'>
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« Reply #22 on: March 06, 2006, 12:32:25 pm »
Quote (1refrescofan @ Mar. 05 2006,9:19)
if I slightly move up the dime finger it will vend.

Then use a coil spring to hold it in this position
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« Reply #23 on: March 06, 2006, 12:37:15 pm »
If I use a coil spring to hold it in this postition, the coin mech will vend for free. I'm trying to get it to work on both dimes and nickles.
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« Reply #24 on: March 06, 2006, 02:26:10 pm »
I'll try to measure my dime finger - maybe somewhere along the line somebody ground down the dime finger so it would not work with dimes (unlikely, but I have seen some  '<img'> things done to these machines). The other thing you could do is make it a nickel machine. Take a nickel and mount a post or roll pin in the center of it - place it in the left hand side of the nickel slot (closest to the finger) with the post sticking out in the little cutout in front of the nickel slot. The post keeps the nickel from falling and there is enough play in the cutout that unless another nickel is behind it, it will not vend. When a second nickel is in, it will fall to the coin box and vend. Nickel Cokes taste better anyway! All my machines are nickel machines.
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Vendo Junior (rest.), 23 Deluxe, 39D, 56RT, 80SS, 81A (nice orig), 6 C.V.
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« Reply #25 on: March 06, 2006, 02:46:23 pm »
Thanks for not giving up on my problem, making it a nickle machine sounds like a good idea. I think you are correct, someone probably did file down the dime arm, since other than this it works just fine. I will measure it and take a close look at it when you send me the measurments, so I can compare the two. I did contact sodajerkworks, steve does an awsome job restoring these things, had one done and it came back Cheeerryyy!! This mech is not cheap to restore, it will cost approx 2x the amount I paid to restore the one I have in my vendo 81. With the new measurments may be I can go to a machine shop and have this bracket made.
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« Reply #26 on: March 06, 2006, 09:51:40 pm »
Sorry fresco, time got away from me today. I'll get a measurement to you as soon as I can - hopefully tonight. If you are going to be paying Steve to restore it, why would you have a machine shop fab a part?
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SelectiVend 48 DP
1930s DP Counter Cooler(Restored)
Glasco 50
Vendo Coin Changers (ea. style-nice orig w/ stand)
Vendo Junior (rest.), 23 Deluxe, 39D, 56RT, 80SS, 81A (nice orig), 6 C.V.
VMC 27, 27A, 81D DP, 110 DP
Westinghouse WC-44SK, WD-5, WB60
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« Reply #27 on: March 06, 2006, 11:51:02 pm »
Fresco,
Sorry, it will have to be tomorrow. I moved the machine with the mech over near our bedroom on the porch. The wife zonked out early tonight and I don't want to wake her clanging around outside the door. Just a thought though - can you still read the stamps on the side of the mech. Mine is a 5545-2A and also has a stamp that says "This unit set for 10cent operation" and still another number 31, which I have no idea what that stood for except possibly inspected by 31. Was wondering if yours might say "This unit set for 5 cent operation and the 5 cent coin slide filler is just missing. I don't even know if they set large door mechs to 5 cents and, if they did, why they would bother putting the dime finger in. I imagine they did produce a 5 cent version, but it would be odd in a 1957 V56 as the price of a Coke had gone up by 1957. Anyway, it was just a thought! I'll check the dime finger length tomorrow for you.
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1930s DP Counter Cooler(Restored)
Glasco 50
Vendo Coin Changers (ea. style-nice orig w/ stand)
Vendo Junior (rest.), 23 Deluxe, 39D, 56RT, 80SS, 81A (nice orig), 6 C.V.
VMC 27, 27A, 81D DP, 110 DP
Westinghouse WC-44SK, WD-5, WB60
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« Reply #28 on: March 07, 2006, 09:27:49 am »
Fresco,
I have attached a picture of mine with the fingers up. Kind of hard to get an exact measurement inside the mech, but it looks to be 2 15/16" inches long. The tip is also rounded as you can see. Does your mech have any stampings still legible?
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1930s DP Counter Cooler(Restored)
Glasco 50
Vendo Coin Changers (ea. style-nice orig w/ stand)
Vendo Junior (rest.), 23 Deluxe, 39D, 56RT, 80SS, 81A (nice orig), 6 C.V.
VMC 27, 27A, 81D DP, 110 DP
Westinghouse WC-44SK, WD-5, WB60
Victor C-1
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« Reply #29 on: March 07, 2006, 11:15:58 am »
There is a spring here....which is not on Fresco's mech
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« Reply #30 on: March 07, 2006, 11:31:50 am »
Collecture,

I did not have time to longon last night, will take a close look at the dime finger today, measure it and compare it to yours. Just from what I can remember, My coin Mech is stamped on the right side with: set to vend at .10 cents, so it has to take dimes. On thing that looks very obvious is that your dime arm looks longer than mine. We will soon findout.


MoonDawg, my mech also has that same spring, it was attached to the body of the mech, I moved to the same position as the one found on Collecture's mech. Did not help.

Thanks guys and will post later this afternoon.
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« Reply #31 on: March 07, 2006, 06:55:34 pm »
Well Collecture we have found the problem. I knew looking at yours that my dime finger looked a bit small. Measuring it confirmed my greatest fear. The dime finger has been cut and filed. It measured from the point where the finger starts straight: 2 inches. The total length of the finger from the round end to the point: 2 1/2 inches. Well short of the 2 and 15/16 inches. Darn, someone possibly wanted to make this a free vend machine and filed down the dime finger and placed nickle slugs into it (via Steve). Well I have several options. I like having thing correct or they eat at me.

Thanks for all your help in diagnosing this problem.

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