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« Reply #10 on: May 28, 2005, 11:01:50 pm »
It's obviously not holding credit if it's doing that.. the question is why it's doing so..  does your machine use a time delay relay ? It should show it on the schematic if it does.. if you can't tell from that, look for a relay with stuff attached to it:
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« Reply #11 on: May 29, 2005, 08:43:16 pm »
Yes it does have a time delay relay. I followed the schematic to the wiring and it seemed to be wired correctly. But need to do some more CSI work on it though.

Just curious, is it possible to wire the machine so you don't have to push the button, just walk up to it and select a soda?

Just have to thank you this site site one the best I have ever worked with. Specially for a novice at vending machines.

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« Reply #12 on: May 29, 2005, 10:05:11 pm »
you could hookup a wire from pin#1 to pins no.'s 3 & 7, that would hold the vend relay closed. same as the free-play switch circut, but minus the switch...just hard-wired
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« Reply #13 on: May 29, 2005, 10:42:57 pm »
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you could hookup a wire from pin#1 to pins no.'s 3 & 7, that would hold the vend relay closed.

I thought that it was a bad idea to have the vending relay constantly engaged.  '<img'>
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« Reply #14 on: May 30, 2005, 07:03:01 am »
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you could hookup a wire from pin#1 to pins no.'s 3 & 7, that would hold the vend relay closed.

I thought that it was a bad idea to have the vending relay constantly engaged.  '<img'>

It is a Very Bad Idea On earlier glass-door machines that have the soleniod on the bottom of the bottle vending gate, it wouldn't work for long as it would overheat the soleniod , ( they were designed for a 50% duty cycle) but on later multi-button machines like this Rock-Ola with a seperate vending relay it can be done. as the vending soleniod isn't engaged until the flavor button is pushed to accuate that columns 'mech. the vending relay was designed to hold a "credit" until the customer pushed a flavor button , or in this case the time-delay circut "timed-out" & dropped the credit after a given period.  Also it won't work on "pre-select" machines like say a Westinhouse WC102MD/Select-a-Matic" as it would just keep dropping bottles until the empty switch kicked in.
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« Reply #15 on: May 30, 2005, 11:49:46 am »
Thank you all!!! I got the machine to vend exactly the way you guys said. I had to do some CSI work from the schematic to the relay which of course was wired wrong.

Next project is get vendolator VF117 to vend and cool.

Thank you.
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« Reply #16 on: May 30, 2005, 08:55:51 pm »
It vends with the hard-wired free play ?  Good to know on later machines you can hard wire the relay without causing problems.. I was always afraid it would end up welding the relay contacts closed or burning it out or something..
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