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« on: February 01, 2005, 06:29:41 pm » |
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I just purchased a lacrosse machine and need some info on it. model # LC546. It is a 6 bottle machine. Need lots of work and I really need to id the coin mech.
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jasmine64
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« Reply #1 on: February 01, 2005, 06:39:53 pm » |
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Lacrosse front pic.
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jasmine64
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« Reply #2 on: February 01, 2005, 07:22:31 pm » |
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I also need to know if there are manuals out there and wiring diagrams.
Every thing except the cord is intact with this machine. Even the drip pan and door glass! Coin return lever is hard to press.
Where can I get gaskets to seal the doors after cleaning the machine. I plan on taking my time with this one cleaning it up.
I want to get it running before going into having it stripped, dents filled in and painted this summer.
Who has paint codes for Pepsi and replacement decals?
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Kevin C
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« Reply #3 on: February 01, 2005, 08:59:45 pm » |
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Hello
Welcome. If you stick around I am sure you will get some good information here. I would suggest taking a picture of the entire coin mechinism so the experts here can get a look at it & also post any numbers. Plus try to make your pictures a little larger like 400 pixels by 300 pixels.
I was in you same position back in late October & now I have three machines.
Kevin
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jasmine64
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« Reply #4 on: February 01, 2005, 09:05:47 pm » |
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Thanks Kevin. I have plans to go over the entire machine and document all parts that I can in the next several days. Would like to document it with before and after pics. I'll remember to post larger pics next time.
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jasmine64
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« Reply #5 on: February 02, 2005, 03:03:00 pm » |
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This is the pics I took this morning. Can anyone tell me what kind of coin mech this is it has no id marks of manufacturer. a few numbers but other than that nothing.
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« Reply #6 on: February 02, 2005, 04:18:29 pm » |
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I have a couple more pics to post. Comments on this coin mech is appreciated.
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« Reply #7 on: February 02, 2005, 05:24:32 pm » |
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This is an all metal coin mech and weighs almost 5 lbs.
How do i clean it? It has lots of "gunk" in it and a nickel is stuck along the path of entry at the top.
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« Reply #8 on: February 02, 2005, 08:16:01 pm » |
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Hello
I would think that thing could be a good fishing weight. How many prongs were on the cord? Show a picture of the coin changer in the machine. I think on of the standard coinco's should work.
I just purchased three of them on e-bay for $51.
Kevin
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Vendo 63-C On the job
Vendo 56 Going back together
Vendo 56-C Waiting for rehab!
Vendo 126 Rough outside but loaded & operational
Vendo 110 Under repair
Ideal 55 - **For Sale make offer
Glasco 55 - Waiting
Royal 650 On the job
Lance Snack Machine - On the job
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« Reply #9 on: February 03, 2005, 12:56:33 am » |
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I put a Mars 6200 in my La Crosse. It is a good replacement for the older coincos (9800s). The only problem I have run into is the coin shoot is a little short and coins can sometimes miss the changer and land in the bottle cap catcher. Nothing a short piece of metal will fix.
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RC Vendo 276 - MAKING MONEY!!!!
Coke Cavalier CSS-96 - Parting Out.
7-UP S&S 1400-WD2 Cooler - Looking for a Front Grill.
Coke Vendo 63 - Wife's Machine.
PePsi Vendo 144 - SOLD!!!!
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jasmine64
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« Reply #10 on: February 03, 2005, 10:10:12 am » |
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The machine and the coin mech are both small. The machine is 48"tall.
in the picture to the right on the door is the coin slot. it matches up with the coin mech so I would need something small enought to match the coin slot.
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« Reply #11 on: February 03, 2005, 10:13:17 am » |
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posted the wrong pic. here's the right one.
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« Reply #12 on: February 03, 2005, 11:36:02 am » |
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Krecal, did your LaCross have a coin mech like this one? I don't understand how a Coinco would mount.
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« Reply #13 on: February 03, 2005, 04:39:33 pm » |
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The only thing that bothers me is that I don't see the wire harness that connects the coinmech to the machines electrical "jones" socket ( the mech looks like an early Coin Acceptors model to me, they are now called Coinco) & it looks like a single price/exact change only "shorty" is the machine labled for 10-cents I'm assuming?
a full length coinco could be adapted, by removing the "coin reject" channel on the left/bottom & the "accepted coins" chute extension to the right. the mounting holes should line up , or at least would be a big deal (to me anyway) to be placed in to right spots to support the larger S75-9800 series changer/coinmech ( I've done it before)
to clean it simple unclip it from the main body of the mech. by lifting the clips in the upper corners & tilt it down towards you then once it's at about a 45 degree angle pull the "Slug-rejector" out of the main body, then you can boil it in a big pot of water ( no kidding!) with a tiny touch of dishsoap to clean out all the gunk.... see the attached photo with the circles & arrows.
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Yea, 220...221, whatever it takes.
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jasmine64
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« Reply #14 on: February 03, 2005, 05:18:39 pm » |
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What era does a 10 cent machine come from?
Thanks for the info. I have yet to check out the wiring. I unclipped only 2 wires from underneath the mech. See pic.
When did they stop making the coin mech I have? Maybe that could give me an idea how old the machine is.
It is a 10 cent machine. That is one of the reasons I bought it.
I plan on taking more pics and maybe someone can tell me where to get wiring for this machine. How to place the shelves back in properly. (they were just stacked inside). Color codes to paint it.
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« Reply #15 on: February 03, 2005, 06:01:41 pm » |
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The coin mech is a National rejector 8000-27, St Louis MO.
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« Reply #16 on: February 03, 2005, 06:03:52 pm » |
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This is how it was clipped into the wiring.
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« Reply #17 on: February 03, 2005, 06:11:15 pm » |
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Johnnie,
Wont the heat from boiling the mech demagnatize the magnet in the coin mech?
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« Reply #18 on: February 03, 2005, 06:33:52 pm » |
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| Quote (jasmine64 @ Feb. 03 2005,6:11) | Johnnie,
Wont the heat from boiling the mech demagnatize the magnet in the coin mech? |
Nope. anyway on this mech. all the magnets are used for is to reject Canadian coins & steel-slugs. it's safe to boil the all-metal slug-rejectors,in fact it's recomended by Coinco's manual with these types.
DO NOT emerse the lower half in water!!! only the "Slug-Rejector" |
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Yea, 220...221, whatever it takes.
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« Reply #19 on: February 03, 2005, 06:51:16 pm » |
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| Quote (jasmine64 @ Feb. 03 2005,5:18) | What era does a 10 cent machine come from?
Thanks for the info. I have yet to check out the wiring. I unclipped only 2 wires from underneath the mech. See pic.
When did they stop making the coin mech I have? Maybe that could give me an idea how old the machine is.
It is a 10 cent machine. That is one of the reasons I bought it.
I plan on taking more pics and maybe someone can tell me where to get wiring for this machine. How to place the shelves back in properly. (they were just stacked inside). Color codes to paint it. |
it's a "square-corner" machine, so it's from the early '60's
(Yes, soda-pop was still a dime!  ) it's just got a "single price" coinmech, ( it won't make change, or accept a quarter, just nickles & dimes) here's how to remount the shelfs below. |
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Yea, 220...221, whatever it takes.
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« Reply #20 on: February 03, 2005, 07:44:26 pm » |
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Will CLR clean up the shelves? What else can be used? Plan on starting the clean up this weekend.
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« Reply #21 on: February 04, 2005, 07:15:37 am » |
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Me thinks yon shelves are a jubble  '>
Remember, when transporting machines on their backs, always remove the shelves. they can fall & bang around & even damage the evaporator coils or the refrigerant lines.
The shelves are gray with age, and this is normal for galvanizing (zinc plating) take then out & use a steel wool pad with hot soapy water in the laundry tub & they'll be fine for use, if you insist on get them shiny-new then you can use CLR & RUBBER-GLOVES/LONGSLEEVES & lightly srub them with the steel wool, if you rub too hard, well you'll remove all of the galvanizing & yea they'll be shiny, for about a week untill they start to rust. so go easy.
some people have the shelves powder-coated, others clean & paint them with Hammer-tone paint, but if you are just getting the machine cleaned up for your use, & not "restoring it" then soap & water+elbow grease will do fine.  :'> well that's my suggestion.
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Yea, 220...221, whatever it takes.
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« Reply #23 on: February 04, 2005, 07:00:11 pm » |
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I'll keep the cleaning of the shelves to just getting the grime off, Not planning on scrubbing until they shine.
Has anyone seen wiring done like this before? Goes off into 5 directions.
My machine really needs rewiring, it's brittle as a dry twig.
[This is the main wiring junction block, it's cast-plastic & can't be opened]...JohnieG
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« Reply #24 on: February 04, 2005, 07:03:16 pm » |
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Plugs like this.
[this is the compressor's plug {the big one} the little round one is for the evaporator fan motor.]...JohnieG
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« Reply #25 on: February 04, 2005, 07:06:13 pm » |
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Goes up under the door to the coin mech and this little box. What does the little box run?
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« Reply #26 on: February 04, 2005, 07:08:27 pm » |
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around to door, better pic.
[One pair feed's the vending relay, & the other pair goes back to the vending soleniod, from the relay]...JohnieG
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« Reply #27 on: February 04, 2005, 07:10:22 pm » |
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little box next to coin mech.
[This is the vending relay, it controls the vending soleniod, it gets power from the door harness, gives it to the coinmech switch, which controls/triggers the vending relay..which triggers the vending soleniod.]...JohnieG
Johnnie,
I have an electrician coming out next week to take a look at both of my machines, need to know if possibly this Pepsi machine can be wired up to take a coinco coin mech someway.
Thought about cutting the chutes down to fit.
What would you do?
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« Reply #28 on: February 04, 2005, 09:53:02 pm » |
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perhaps this basic wiring diagram may assist you....it doesn't show the evaporator fan motor,or the compressor fan motor for clarity..
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Yea, 220...221, whatever it takes.
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« Reply #29 on: February 04, 2005, 09:59:47 pm » |
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| Quote (jasmine64 @ Feb. 04 2005,7:00) | I'll keep the cleaning of the shelves to just getting the grime off, Not planning on scrubbing until they shine.
Has anyone seen wiring done like this before? Goes off into 5 directions.
My machine really needs rewiring, it's brittle as a dry twig. |
this is your main wiring juntion block, it's sealed cast-plastic & can't be opened. |
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jasmine64
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« Reply #30 on: February 05, 2005, 09:29:01 am » |
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There is a wiring sticker on the machine but it is missing the top half.
Does anyone happen to have a simular one?
How would it be rewired today? The same manner or use something else? Trying to get a fix on how and which direction to move in with a partial restore of a full restore.
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